I've been doing only minimal installs of Factory lately. I also set solver.onlyRequires=true and use only zypper for package management. That means patterns shouldn't be installed, yet they seem to be anyway. Today I notice on such an rv380 installation that I had incompletely installed Xorg even though KDE 4.8.4 works using startx, but KDM didn't, and still doesn't for reasons unknown to me. In trying to get KDM to work I noticed xorg-x11 hadn't been installed, so I did zypper in xorg-x11. That resulted in 4 packages to install, including twm and xdm. Why on a system with kdm already installed are twm and xdm required? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+owner@opensuse.org