Hello. The Pragha player is in Factory. I think, we should make it a default audio player in Xfce pattern. Fedora already did. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=commit;h=676271bd http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2012-February/001019.html -- WBR Kyrill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Kyrill, On 11.05.2012 12:13, Kyrill Detinov wrote:
The Pragha player is in Factory. I think, we should make it a default audio player in Xfce pattern.
Fedora already did. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=commit;h=676271bd http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2012-February/001019.html
when I last evaluated the GTK-based music management application in oS there were really only Rhythmbox and Banshee. While both offer roughly equivalent functionality, I went with Rhtythmbox over Banshee because the latter would draw in the whole Mono stack which is otherwise not used. In comparison to those two, Pragha offers some integration with Xfce session management and uses a bit less memory but also has significantly less functionality and does not seem to be extensible. In particular, Rhythmbox provides a plugin system and the included plugins offer a lot of useful features such as integration with iPods and MTP-capable devices, DAAP streaming, integration of Jamendo/Magnatune stores, LIRC-remote support etc. Fedora apparently switched because they had Quodlibet before to which Pragha arguably seems to be an improvement, however for us I think it would constitute rather a regression in terms of losing functionality that might be useful to a broad range of users and that are provided by the oS GNOME and KDE desktops. I think that Pragha certainly has a place as a minimalistic solution but I find for the above reasons that currently Rhythmbox is a more suitable default. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+owner@opensuse.org
Hello. One more try. On Fri, 11 May 2012 19:49:30 +0200 Guido Berhoerster wrote:
The Pragha player is in Factory. I think, we should make it a default audio player in Xfce pattern.
Fedora already did. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=commit;h=676271bd http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2012-February/001019.html
when I last evaluated the GTK-based music management application in oS there were really only Rhythmbox and Banshee. While both offer roughly equivalent functionality, I went with Rhtythmbox over Banshee because the latter would draw in the whole Mono stack which is otherwise not used. In comparison to those two, Pragha offers some integration with Xfce session management and uses a bit less memory but also has significantly less functionality and does not seem to be extensible. In particular, Rhythmbox provides a plugin system and the included plugins offer a lot of useful features such as integration with iPods and MTP-capable devices, DAAP streaming, integration of Jamendo/Magnatune stores, LIRC-remote support etc. Fedora apparently switched because they had Quodlibet before to which Pragha arguably seems to be an improvement, however for us I think it would constitute rather a regression in terms of losing functionality that might be useful to a broad range of users and that are provided by the oS GNOME and KDE desktops. I think that Pragha certainly has a place as a minimalistic solution but I find for the above reasons that currently Rhythmbox is a more suitable default.
Guido, we have a better suited Pragha 1.3.1 in the xfce:Next repository.
Rhythmbox provides a plugin system and the included plugins offer a lot of useful features such as integration with iPods and MTP-capable devices, DAAP streaming, integration of Jamendo/Magnatune stores, LIRC-remote support etc.
Well, Pragha provides a plugin system also: * AcoustID - Get metadata on AcoustID service. * CD-ROM - Play Audio CDs. * Devices - Management removable devices. * DLNA Server - Share your playlist on a DLNA server. * DLNA Renderer - Play music on a DLNA server. * Global Hotkeys - Control Pragha with multimedia keys. * Global Hotkeys with gnome-media-keys daemon - Control Pragha with gnome-media-keys daemon. * Last.fm - Scrobble on Last.fm. * MPRIS2 - Control Pragha with MPRIS2 interface. * MTP Devices - Management MTP devices. * Notification - Show notification when change songs. * Removable Media - Detect removable media and scan it. * Song Info - Get Artist info, Lyrics and Album arts of yours songs. * Get radios - Get radios on TuneIn. -- WBR Kyrill
* Kyrill Detinov <lazy.kent@opensuse.org> [2014-08-14 20:15]:
Hello. One more try.
On Fri, 11 May 2012 19:49:30 +0200 Guido Berhoerster wrote:
The Pragha player is in Factory. I think, we should make it a default audio player in Xfce pattern.
Fedora already did. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=commit;h=676271bd http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2012-February/001019.html
when I last evaluated the GTK-based music management application in oS there were really only Rhythmbox and Banshee. While both offer roughly equivalent functionality, I went with Rhtythmbox over Banshee because the latter would draw in the whole Mono stack which is otherwise not used. In comparison to those two, Pragha offers some integration with Xfce session management and uses a bit less memory but also has significantly less functionality and does not seem to be extensible. In particular, Rhythmbox provides a plugin system and the included plugins offer a lot of useful features such as integration with iPods and MTP-capable devices, DAAP streaming, integration of Jamendo/Magnatune stores, LIRC-remote support etc. Fedora apparently switched because they had Quodlibet before to which Pragha arguably seems to be an improvement, however for us I think it would constitute rather a regression in terms of losing functionality that might be useful to a broad range of users and that are provided by the oS GNOME and KDE desktops. I think that Pragha certainly has a place as a minimalistic solution but I find for the above reasons that currently Rhythmbox is a more suitable default.
Guido, we have a better suited Pragha 1.3.1 in the xfce:Next repository.
Rhythmbox provides a plugin system and the included plugins offer a lot of useful features such as integration with iPods and MTP-capable devices, DAAP streaming, integration of Jamendo/Magnatune stores, LIRC-remote support etc.
Well, Pragha provides a plugin system also:
* AcoustID - Get metadata on AcoustID service. * CD-ROM - Play Audio CDs. * Devices - Management removable devices. * DLNA Server - Share your playlist on a DLNA server. * DLNA Renderer - Play music on a DLNA server. * Global Hotkeys - Control Pragha with multimedia keys. * Global Hotkeys with gnome-media-keys daemon - Control Pragha with gnome-media-keys daemon. * Last.fm - Scrobble on Last.fm. * MPRIS2 - Control Pragha with MPRIS2 interface. * MTP Devices - Management MTP devices. * Notification - Show notification when change songs. * Removable Media - Detect removable media and scan it. * Song Info - Get Artist info, Lyrics and Album arts of yours songs. * Get radios - Get radios on TuneIn.
Nice, feature-wise it seems up to par with Rhythmbox. I just tried it out a bit and the interface is responsive and seems nice and clean, upstream has been around for a while and seems active, and they explicitly claim to be desktop-neutral. In short, I don't see any reason not to make it the default music player/manager (and nobody else seems to have any complaints about this either :) The only problem is that it depends on libxfce4ui 4.11 and it's not yet clear whether Xfce 4.12 will be released in time for openSUSE 13.2. Once Xfce 4.12 and Pragha 1.3.x hit Factory please remind me again to change the xfce pattern or do it yourself by branching system:install:head/patterns-openSUSE and referencing this thread in the changelog, OK? -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:41:07 +0200 Guido Berhoerster wrote:
The only problem is that it depends on libxfce4ui 4.11 and it's not yet clear whether Xfce 4.12 will be released in time for openSUSE 13.2. Once Xfce 4.12 and Pragha 1.3.x hit Factory please remind me again to change the xfce pattern or do it yourself by branching system:install:head/patterns-openSUSE and referencing this thread in the changelog, OK?
Thanks. I will do. -- WBR Kyrill
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:41:07 +0200 Guido Berhoerster wrote:
In short, I don't see any reason not to make it the default music player/manager (and nobody else seems to have any complaints about this either :) The only problem is that it depends on libxfce4ui 4.11 and it's not yet clear whether Xfce 4.12 will be released in time for openSUSE 13.2. Once Xfce 4.12 and Pragha 1.3.x hit Factory please remind me again to change the xfce pattern or do it yourself by branching system:install:head/patterns-openSUSE and referencing this thread in the changelog, OK?
Hello. There is a time to remind. We have Xfce 4.12 and Pragha 1.3.x in Factory. -- WBR Kyrill
* Kyrill Detinov <lazy.kent@opensuse.org> [2015-03-27 20:48]:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:41:07 +0200 Guido Berhoerster wrote:
In short, I don't see any reason not to make it the default music player/manager (and nobody else seems to have any complaints about this either :) The only problem is that it depends on libxfce4ui 4.11 and it's not yet clear whether Xfce 4.12 will be released in time for openSUSE 13.2. Once Xfce 4.12 and Pragha 1.3.x hit Factory please remind me again to change the xfce pattern or do it yourself by branching system:install:head/patterns-openSUSE and referencing this thread in the changelog, OK?
Hello.
There is a time to remind. We have Xfce 4.12 and Pragha 1.3.x in Factory.
Done, sr#293538. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+owner@opensuse.org
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