I would like to discuss the copying of Wikipedia articles and the larger purpose of our wiki. First I don't see any point in copying articles from Wikipedia: 1. I believe it is a breach of the GFDL as the current openSUSE site terms are not currently GFDL compatible. 2. Any article copied is doomed to become out of date, with any update of wikipedia. 3. It is easy to directly link to Wikipedia with an interwiki link eg [[Wikipedia:Interwiki_link]] will link to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_link I think our Wiki "mission statement" should be that our wiki should only contain information in relation to SUSE Linux or openSUSE project. If we have a page on KDE it should be a brief description and about KDE on SUSE not a history or great detail of KDE, as this is unmaintainable in the longterm, but it should link to the KDE project homepage and the Wikipedia page for KDE, for the indepth detail, that is not relevant to SUSE. This of course, does not only apply to material sourced from Wikipedia. If there are no objections I will update our Style Guide, to reflect this view. http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Style_Guide Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin.
Peter Flodin wrote:
I would like to discuss the copying of Wikipedia articles and the larger purpose of our wiki.
<snip> There is a lot that has to be discussed, about openSUSE wiki look, feel, mission statement, feedback to and from administrative personnel etc. For now I feel pretty lost, as I want to do something, don't want to interfere with other people efforts, missing place to communicate ideas, don't see that wiki totally closed behind registration and login will help much. -- Regards, Rajko.
Rajko M wrote:
Peter Flodin wrote:
I would like to discuss the copying of Wikipedia articles and the larger purpose of our wiki.
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There is a lot that has to be discussed, about openSUSE wiki look, feel, mission statement, feedback to and from administrative personnel etc.
do :-)
For now I feel pretty lost, as I want to do something, don't want to interfere with other people efforts, missing place to communicate ideas, don't see that wiki totally closed behind registration and login will help much.
registration is not closed, so the wiki is not. I agree that the login can make problem for some peoples, but * the wiki is Novells, so what ever you say his content is under Novells responsability. * the wiki is _not_ in my opinion of the same wide open nature of wikipedia. openSUSE is mostly prone to the development of the SUSE Linux distribution. It's mainly a community of developpers, beta testers, writers... people who wants to be active for SUSE Linux. Asking them to register (and with no register filtering) is a _yet very small_ mean to verify they level of involvement. Do we need people not even able to register? what are they to do is anybody asks them to get a bug to bugzilla? well my thinking is not closed on this point, these are just a mere present opinion that may change :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=G%C3%A9rer_ses_photos
Peter Flodin wrote:
I would like to discuss the copying of Wikipedia articles and the larger purpose of our wiki.
First I don't see any point in copying articles from Wikipedia: 1. I believe it is a breach of the GFDL as the current openSUSE site terms are not currently GFDL compatible. 2. Any article copied is doomed to become out of date, with any update of wikipedia. 3. It is easy to directly link to Wikipedia with an interwiki link eg [[Wikipedia:Interwiki_link]] will link to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_link
I think our Wiki "mission statement" should be that our wiki should only contain information in relation to SUSE Linux or openSUSE project. If we have a page on KDE it should be a brief description and about KDE on SUSE not a history or great detail of KDE, as this is unmaintainable in the longterm, but it should link to the KDE project homepage and the Wikipedia page for KDE, for the indepth detail, that is not relevant to SUSE.
This of course, does not only apply to material sourced from Wikipedia.
If there are no objections I will update our Style Guide, to reflect this view. http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Style_Guide
Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin.
this seems nice. did you see a copied article in, the actual wiki (as an example)? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=G%C3%A9rer_ses_photos
On 2/6/06, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
this seems nice. did you see a copied article in, the actual wiki (as an example)?
There are several, but I don't want to draw attention to something and then judge the contributor by it, if there were no guidelines to help them. I would prefer that we discussed and agreed on guidelines, and the normal wiki process will take of itself without making any contributor feel out of place. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin
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