[opensuse-wiki] New wiki skin: RC1
Hi, thanks to your great feedback (a special thanks to Christian Boltz, who discovered most bugs) I managed to eliminate hopefully all bugs from the new wiki skin and now proudly present the first "Release Candidate" on http://en.test.opensuse.org/ At the moment I know of only one open issue: - the logo display when using very small font sizes in Gecko/KHTML browsers (not sure whether this is resolvable at all) BTW: An RC1 for download.opensuse.org will follow ASAP. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
Hi,
thanks to your great feedback (a special thanks to Christian Boltz, who discovered most bugs) I managed to eliminate hopefully all bugs from the new wiki skin and now proudly present the first "Release Candidate" on
At the moment I know of only one open issue: - the logo display when using very small font sizes in Gecko/KHTML browsers (not sure whether this is resolvable at all)
BTW: An RC1 for download.opensuse.org will follow ASAP.
very nice. may be for a future skin, but I don't know how it's possible in Mediawiki, PmWiki triad skin have a switch for visually impaired people here in french http://www.culte.org/pmwiki/?n=Main.HomePage?setview=standard&setfontsize=90 in english: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/TriadSkin (look at the buttons "big view,text size") we _have_ to think a lot at such solutions, computers are often a salvation for such people (We have an impaired center near our LUG and many visually impaired people with us) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 08:58, jdd wrote:
PmWiki triad skin have a switch for visually impaired people
That would be idea too. Second skin for such cases. Frank: The problem with left column appear: - In Konqueror after first step [1]. It just one size below default on this computer. The font size is set to be similar to Firefox. To be honest 3rd step is still readable, but uncomfortable small. - In Firefox after 2 steps. The Firefox is on installation default, and here i can go far below readable. I'll try to look for some examples on the web to see what they do. Playing with font size decrease I found that if font is on minimum size in Konqueror and I continue pressing keys [1], font of course will not change, but when I want to revert to bigger fonts I have to press 3 times before I see first change :-) I know that this is not a wiki skin problem, but I hope that someone form KDE team has advice what to do. [1] The step is Ctrl-<Minus on numeric pad>. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 17:02, Rajko M. wrote: Hi,
Playing with font size decrease I found that if font is on minimum size in Konqueror and I continue pressing keys [1], font of course will not change, but when I want to revert to bigger fonts I have to press 3 times before I see first change :-) I know that this is not a wiki skin problem, but I hope that someone form KDE team has advice what to do.
you probably specified a minimum font size. Although Ctrl-- does not do anything visible when having reached the secified minimum font size, it seems to have an internal effect. Same happens on Firefox. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 10:06, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 17:02, Rajko M. wrote:
Hi,
Playing with font size decrease I found that if font is on minimum size in Konqueror and I continue pressing keys [1], font of course will not change, but when I want to revert to bigger fonts I have to press 3 times before I see first change :-) I know that this is not a wiki skin problem, but I hope that someone form KDE team has advice what to do.
you probably specified a minimum font size. Although Ctrl-- does not do anything visible when having reached the secified minimum font size, it seems to have an internal effect. Same happens on Firefox.
In Konqueror it is close to minimum. I can decrease font for 2 steps. The Firefox has 2 empty steps. I looked on: - http://en.wikipedia.org , and it is the same problem rendering the page. Though it seems that smaller logo makes it not so sensitive to font size. and few more linked from http://en.opensuse.org/Frontpage_redesign: - http://wiki.mozilla.org/Documentation:_Introduction has similar layout and it it is not that sensitive to font size. - http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page has different layout that resist longer to font changes, but gives some funny effects if you go with fontsize too low in Firefox. - http://beagle-project.org/Main_Page is the same as mono. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hay´a! On 12.06.2007, at 15:58, jdd wrote:
Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
Hi, thanks to your great feedback (a special thanks to Christian Boltz, who discovered most bugs) I managed to eliminate hopefully all bugs from the new wiki skin and now proudly present the first "Release Candidate" on http://en.test.opensuse.org/ At the moment I know of only one open issue: - the logo display when using very small font sizes in Gecko/ KHTML browsers (not sure whether this is resolvable at all) BTW: An RC1 for download.opensuse.org will follow ASAP.
very nice.
may be for a future skin, but I don't know how it's possible in Mediawiki, PmWiki triad skin have a switch for visually impaired people
here in french http://www.culte.org/pmwiki/?n=Main.HomePage? setview=standard&setfontsize=90 in english: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/TriadSkin (look at the buttons "big view,text size")
we _have_ to think a lot at such solutions, computers are often a salvation for such people (We have an impaired center near our LUG and many visually impaired people with us)
I absolutely agree. Accessibility is a very important point! We should implement something like this in future (future != 'when we have nothing else to do' ;-). That should not be so hard.
jdd
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cheers :-) Robert Lihm Graphics Designer ____________________________________________________________ Robert Lihm, User eXperience Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm@suse.de ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Dienstag, 12. Juni 2007, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
thanks to your great feedback (a special thanks to Christian Boltz, who discovered most bugs) I managed to eliminate hopefully all bugs from the new wiki skin
I just checked my last mail and it seems you fixed almost all bugs I found (OK, except the hard line break in the footer, but that's a really minor thing.) However, I didn't do a full check, so I hope you didn't introduce any new bugs ;-)
and now proudly present the first "Release Candidate" on
At the moment I know of only one open issue: - the logo display when using very small font sizes in Gecko/KHTML browsers (not sure whether this is resolvable at all)
Hmm, why is the logo a JPG file? Proposal: make it a GIF file [1], and make most white parts transparent. This won't fix the problem, but it would more or less hide it ;-) because the box border won't be hidden except if the geeko or the text "openSUSE" covers it. To test this, just use the GIF file I have attached to this mail. What I did to create it is basically: - open JPG in GIMP - add alpha channel - choose the "selection by color" tool, tolerance 5.0 - click the white area - shrink selection by 1 pixel - some finetuning to the selection (like excluding whitespace in the middle of the logo and straighten out borders) - sharpen selection to avoid that half-transparent pixels are created - delete the selected whitespace - convert to indexed colors, optimized color palette, no dittering - save as GIF BTW: The ™ sign isn't really useful in its current size of 3x4 pixels ;-) I don't know if it is a legal requirement to put it there, but if it isn't, I would remove those 12 pixels. Regarding scalable font size (as proposed by jdd) I recommend to use http://www.einfach-fuer-alle.de/artikel/fontsize/
BTW: An RC1 for download.opensuse.org will follow ASAP.
I hope it will contain "Network installation" as additional installation media type ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] Yes, I know that some people don't like GIF for political reasons, but it is the best solution from a technical point of view here. (PNG would also be OK, but I'm sure you know about the problems in IE...) -- Not mentioned in the `known features'-list so far... [found on https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=152068]
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 23:54, Christian Boltz wrote: Hi,
Hmm, why is the logo a JPG file?
oh, this is not the final logo - I just took the first one I found. It will be replaced by a transparent one.
BTW: The ™ sign isn't really useful in its current size of 3x4 pixels ;-) I don't know if it is a legal requirement to put it there
It is.
Regarding scalable font size (as proposed by jdd) I recommend to use http://www.einfach-fuer-alle.de/artikel/fontsize/
I don't see the necessity for such a script. Gecko/KHTML and IE < 7 have such an ability build-in and Opera/IE7 scale the whole page. Why would I want to offer a script that provides a functionality every browser is capable of? Do I miss something? -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, just cleaning up my old mails, I found the following: on Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 23:54, Christian Boltz wrote:
Hmm, why is the logo a JPG file?
oh, this is not the final logo - I just took the first one I found. It will be replaced by a transparent one.
And now guess what's on software.opensuse.org... Correct, it's still a JPG :-/ (See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2007-06/msg00021.html for my original message regarding transparent logo.) Putting aside this problem, the new download page looks really great! Regards, Christian Boltz -- warum fabriziert ihr eigentlich die schönsten Endlos-Threads immer dann, wenn ich _nicht_ da bin? Habt ihr was gegen mich? [Florian Gross in suse-linux] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
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