On Friday 08 January 2010 01:23:22 DenverD wrote:

Jonathan Rocker wrote:

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This article http://en.opensuse.org/Feature_Wishlist is marked as "This article will not be transferred to the new wiki instance! This article does not fit the openSUSE:Wiki Guidelines requirement and cannot be updated. It will not be transferred to the new Wiki instance. Reason Replaced by openFATE." If this is the case, shouldn't the article be deleted?

[thinking out loud] if it is to be deleted, shouldn't it be _after_ the other articles have been transferred to wiki.o.o ??

Current plan is that after transfer is completed en.opensuse.org (en.o.o) and wiki.opensuse.org (wiki.o.o) will be switched, so that old content is still available if we missed something and article maintainer wants to rescue his article. How switch will happen technically is up to the web admins.

hmmmmm...i wonder how many other articles are out there which link to Feature_Wishlist and if their reviewer will know to change all instances of Feature_Wishlist to https://features.opensuse.org/ instead?

The reason to keep redirect pages with old title is that web doesn't like URL changes, and wiki articles are not exemption to that rule. Changing the links without leaving redirects creates dead links on a web page that linked our articles which is not very likely to be greeted by that site web admin as it makes his site look bad. That is the reason that a move to the new name (link Move above the title) creates redirect instead to remove old page completely. Links to new pages should be removed only in special cases.

hmmmm...perhaps some administrator could today (even) alias http://en.opensuse.org/Feature_Wishlist to land on https://features.opensuse.org/

So far I know that should be done on the Apache web server. MediaWiki software can't redirect to remote site. That is probably design decision to prevent people misusing it to hijack wiki articles as redirects to advertising sites.

hmmmmm...is there, or should there be, a transition plan of how to do that because with the new capitalization rules, there are MANY many address changes required...so, articles reviewed today pointing to (for example) http://en.opensuse.org/Optimal_Use_of_MS_TrueType_Core_Fonts_for_a_KDE_Desk top_on_SuSE will have to be changed when the new link is http://wiki.opensuse.org/Optimal_use_of_MS_TrueType_core_fonts_for_a_KDE_d esktop_on_openSUSE

how will the team manage this?

After your comments I see that this probably means taking all redirects with articles, which is not small task; as you noted that will mean almost doubling number that has to be transferred, so we should probably think again what to do.

dd

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