The site is up, but a little slow to respond. Unless I'm mistaken, wikistage is only accessible inside the Novell firewall. Matthew Ehle Web Engineer Application Development & Maintenance Affiliated Computer Services, Inc A Xerox Company Office Phone: (801) 861-2722 mehle@novell.com

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Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> 2/22/2010 4:25 PM >>> Hello,

on Montag, 22. Februar 2010, Thomas Schmidt wrote:

Hi, I added the current state of the bento theme[1] to our wiki staging server [2]. [2] http://wikistage.opensuse.org/Test?useskin=bento

I can't reach wikistage.opensuse.org (connection timed out). Is the server down or is it only reachable from inside the SUSE office? (Needless to say that it should be public ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Die drei Todfeinde des Programmieres: Sonnenlicht, frische Luft und das unerträgliche Gebrüll der Vögel. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

On 02/23/2010 12:25 AM, Christian Boltz wrote:

Hello,

on Montag, 22. Februar 2010, Thomas Schmidt wrote:

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Hi, I added the current state of the bento theme[1] to our wiki staging server [2]. [2] http://wikistage.opensuse.org/Test?useskin=bento

I can't reach wikistage.opensuse.org (connection timed out). Is the server down or is it only reachable from inside the SUSE office? (Needless to say that it should be public ;-)

The bento theme is available for testing now also on wiki.o.o: http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=bento You can set it as a default for you in the preferences. Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic" Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

On 02/27/2010 07:14 PM, Rajko M. wrote:

On Friday 26 February 2010 11:50:52 Thomas Schmidt wrote: ...

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The bento theme is available for testing now also on wiki.o.o: http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=bento

You can set it as a default for you in the preferences.

IMO, we should keep default MediaWiki Monobook theme to check basic functionality of new and included extensions. The old openSUSE theme is not the same as Monobook, so comparing to that one will not help much to see what is missing in Bento.

Ok, I re-added monobook, will be available again with the next deployment.

First impressions is that it looks refreshing, although we will have to change our habits when creating pages.

Tabs in Preferences are drawn a bit lower when selected. Second row tab is drawn after currently selected tab, maybe consequence of first row selected tabs being lower then the rest. I like fixed width for textual part as it makes reading easier, but there will be problems with other elements.

Yes, there is still al lot of work to do especially for those elements created by the wiki such as the flaggedrefs elements and the preferences pages.

All links in Navigation section point to the current page.

Bread crumbs: Home points to www.opensuse.org which is OK. Support and Wiki point to wiki.opensuse.org. IMO, one link is enough.

There is the plan to have distinct entry pages for 'Downloads', 'Support', 'Community', 'Development'. I'm not sure which pages that will be, maybe the last three are portals in the wiki, and the first software.o.o ?

Similar problem with top line with # Downloads # Support # Community # Development

Edit window max size that will not run over right end of content area is 95 characters.

Images can't be wider then 700px. I guess that is valid for any other object.

So do you think we can get along with the current width of the content ?

The Page Discussion Edit History Delete Move Protect Watch Refresh are present on the top and the bottom. Feature or bug?

It's a feature. I think it's useful for long pages, maybe we should not display it on small pages.

I guess it is enough for the first time :)

MultiBoilerplate is not enabled for Portal namespace, so templates for that space can't be used there. For me that extension is meant for advanced users that know what they want, so having it there can be helpful.

It is not disabled for that namespace. As far as I understand it, the Portal template itself is a boilerplate, and when adding a new page in the portal namespace I can use boilerplates, see: http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:Development/Intro2&action=edit Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 01 March 2010 12:54:55 Thomas Schmidt wrote: Hi,

Yes, there is still al lot of work to do especially for those elements created by the wiki such as the flaggedrefs elements and the preferences pages.

yes, this is the hard and frustrating part of creating a custom MediaWiki skin (compared to writing the skin file). Takes _A LOT_ of time. The problem is not only identifying these styles, but testing the changes on different browsers and platforms. There is a whole lot of css generated by the wiki - most of the special pages, for example, use their own css. The History page is another example that makes extensive use of custom css. These styles are not easy to find. I would suggest the following procedure to sort them out: Add all styles not yet defined from MonoBook to the Bento CSS and use a combination of e.g. yellow and red for background anf foreground for each of these styles to make them visible. That at least worked for me when creating the current wiki skin. http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/opensuse/trunk/infrastructure/wiki/opens... will probably be helpful for that task - it lists all wiki generated styles I was able to detect under the section "Wiki generated classes and ids". There are some styles I hadn't adjusted, these are listed under " Styles generated by MediaWiki that are currently not set up". Both lists are certainly not complete, since I probably hadn't found every single css. Whatsmore these are he elements used in MediaWiki 1.5.8, in the meantime more css might have been added. BTW: The styles under "Content Elements" from that CSS file also need to be added/adjusted to the bento css. As for the extensions, it's much easier to find the css, since it comes with the extension itself and is not buried somewhere in the MediaWiki sources. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 18:50:52 wrote Thomas Schmidt:

On 02/23/2010 12:25 AM, Christian Boltz wrote:

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Hello,

on Montag, 22. Februar 2010, Thomas Schmidt wrote:

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Hi, I added the current state of the bento theme[1] to our wiki staging server [2]. [2] http://wikistage.opensuse.org/Test?useskin=bento

I can't reach wikistage.opensuse.org (connection timed out). Is the server down or is it only reachable from inside the SUSE office? (Needless to say that it should be public ;-)

The bento theme is available for testing now also on wiki.o.o: http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=bento Wow. i like this. Thanks for that. :-)

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