Re: [opensuse-wiki] ATTENTION: please keep organization in mind
On a short term, anything of this magnitude is impossible. We need to come up with a plan in smaller bites (no pun intended). Cleaning and maintaining the wiki is one thing that should be continually done. Not something that is done once in a while. To that end, I think that if each respective team kept/maintained and organized their part of the wiki, so that it is in line with the overall wiki, then we can accomplish much more, in less time. Think of it organizationally. No large company tries to use one manager to run everything. It's to big. But instead they have managers that report to their bosses, and so on and so forth. Coming from a call center experience, I am more familiar with that organization. So you have the people taking calls (those writing the wiki articles), then you have their supervisors, and then the supervisors have their managers. The managers have the project manager. The project manager reports to the call center director. I don't know anyones position here, so I can't go and complete that analogy. I do hope you understand it though. If we work it something like that, we will be able to accomplish so much more. Respectfully Jon Rocker Sent from Sun City, AZ, United States On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:55, Jon Rocker <linux.learner@gmail.com> wrote:
On a short term, anything of this magnitude is impossible. We need to come up with a plan in smaller bites (no pun intended). Cleaning and maintaining the wiki is one thing that should be continually done. Not something that is done once in a while.
To that end, I think that if each respective team kept/maintained and organized their part of the wiki, so that it is in line with the overall wiki, then we can accomplish much more, in less time. Think of it organizationally. No large company tries to use one manager to run everything. It's to big. But instead they have managers that report to their bosses, and so on and so forth.
Coming from a call center experience, I am more familiar with that organization. So you have the people taking calls (those writing the wiki articles), then you have their supervisors, and then the supervisors have their managers. The managers have the project manager. The project manager reports to the call center director.
I don't know anyones position here, so I can't go and complete that analogy. I do hope you understand it though. If we work it something like that, we will be able to accomplish so much more.
Respectfully Jon Rocker
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:23, Shayon <hkwarlock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Remy Marquis <remy.marquis@gmail.com> wrote:
Well i am not sure about an approx ETA (most probably a week or so, though not sure).As it is constant process .And requires very much of reviewing work and all similar stuffs.So it would take time. But will surely notify when its done (any one of the concerned one can do this) :)
Hi,
About the Flaggrev : It seems to be the way to go :)
About the Templates : It a total mess :) With Rajko and Shayon, we had a look at the 200+ different templates available, cleaned bunch of articles and marked dozen of useless or duplicate templates for deletion. There is more work to come, but at the present state, the following wiki pages
- [[Template]] regroups the templates that are really useful and that shouldn't be deleted - [[Daily_templates]] regroups the main tags that will be used for article review/writing style policy and (more to come here)
Also [[Template messages to review]] -this contains the templates which needs the review by the senior wiki team members, so as to how to deal with them
I believe it is impossible to entirely clean the actual wiki on a short term (as this implies to rewrite/change tags on hundreds of pages), but we can start the new wiki with the already "checked" templates. We will need to rewrite some pages to assure a consistent visual style, but hopefully we won't need to change the irrelevant pages that won't be transferred in the new wiki anyway. Also, if a template reveals itself to be essential when we proofread the new wiki, we can add it on the "checked template" list.
To summarize, it's difficult to clean the actual wiki, but we'll be able to start the new wiki with selected template in a few days at the latest. We still need to work a bit on the visual appearance of some templates thus.
I am on the same page here Remu :)
Regards,
R.
Best, Shayon
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