[opensuse-wiki] wiki.o.o test of new functions
We imported pretty large body of articles from old wiki that will allow us to test wiki. Further imports will be done only if we really need article or group. What is left to upload are images that are missing so that we can really test complete page layout. Right now we have bug that prevents creation of thumbnails so we have time to upload images. The number of new features is quite large comparing to old wiki version 1.5, so we will have quite a job to test them. You can see list of features here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Version **************** First to test was CategoryTree http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree It enables editors to create list of categories and articles in categories that are available on every page on the wiki. This will allow us to have groups of articles with common navigation menu that is updated as soon as article is added to common category. Unlike current method of creating navbar (navigation bar) templates for each group of articles and updating that navbar every time new article is added, with <categorytree> tag all that wiki maintainers have to do is to ensure that new articles have proper [[Category:<nameit>]] link included at the end of article. I started to create categories from YaST related articles, then used ready to go tag from mediwiki.org to test the wiki tag <categorytree>. Some samples for preview are here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST http://wiki.opensuse.org/Category:YaST and live wiki that is using that tag is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree The "plus" widget that you can see in the mediwiki.org CategoryTree is missing in our wiki, which makes use of mode=pages problematic in: <categorytree mode=pages style="float:right; clear:right; margin-left:1ex; border:1px solid gray; padding:0.7ex; background- color:white;">YaST</categorytree> You can see on the page http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST that there is no distinction between listed category and article in that category. **************** The next in the list is Flagged Revisions. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs It is extension with a lot of options. I checked the basics. The editor/reviewer tools at the bottom of the page appear in Main and Template namespace. We are missing icons (images) for tag that is present on every page, before words/strings Unreviewed or Current revision, as well as bars in detailed view that can see user that is not logged in a wiki. The "plus" widget that is used to switch from detailed view of article status to simple is missing too. **************** The rest of extensions is not tested on a new wiki, but we know that: InputBox http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox works in a simple example on http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:SDB that is the same version. There is more options in InputBox to test and see where this extension can be useful. **************** Next extension to test is DynamicPageList which is described on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Intersection From description, it can be useful to create list of articles that belong to few categories without need to create new category and add tags to all articles. **************** Conclusion: Sorting articles in categories and subcategories is very important in order to use new tools. It shifts majority of efforts on one time categorization of existing fond in the old wiki, and then export to new one category by category. New software allows us to name category and it will automatically create list of articles that are listed there, so it will be easier track transfer. The files (images etc) is right now the most labor intensive. We have to see is it possible to categorize them and transfer as category, if not them we have to run quite a few downloads from old wiki and uploads to the new one. -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Excellent work. I am excited at how things are progressing. I am noticing that on wiki.o.o it seems to keep loading. Like something isn't loading. I also noticed on the YaST page, it said "Invalid tag extension name: categorytree". Also having to clear the cookies to login to wiki.o.o is a problem when working with the old wiki. I see the first and the last one as the most important to resolve. I am really impressed, pleased, and excited at how this is coming along. Respectfully Jon Rocker On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 22:22, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
We imported pretty large body of articles from old wiki that will allow us to test wiki. Further imports will be done only if we really need article or group.
What is left to upload are images that are missing so that we can really test complete page layout. Right now we have bug that prevents creation of thumbnails so we have time to upload images.
The number of new features is quite large comparing to old wiki version 1.5, so we will have quite a job to test them. You can see list of features here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Version
**************** First to test was CategoryTree http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
It enables editors to create list of categories and articles in categories that are available on every page on the wiki.
This will allow us to have groups of articles with common navigation menu that is updated as soon as article is added to common category. Unlike current method of creating navbar (navigation bar) templates for each group of articles and updating that navbar every time new article is added, with <categorytree> tag all that wiki maintainers have to do is to ensure that new articles have proper [[Category:<nameit>]] link included at the end of article.
I started to create categories from YaST related articles, then used ready to go tag from mediwiki.org to test the wiki tag <categorytree>.
Some samples for preview are here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST http://wiki.opensuse.org/Category:YaST and live wiki that is using that tag is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
The "plus" widget that you can see in the mediwiki.org CategoryTree is missing in our wiki, which makes use of mode=pages problematic in:
<categorytree mode=pages style="float:right; clear:right; margin-left:1ex; border:1px solid gray; padding:0.7ex; background- color:white;">YaST</categorytree>
You can see on the page http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST that there is no distinction between listed category and article in that category.
**************** The next in the list is Flagged Revisions. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
It is extension with a lot of options. I checked the basics. The editor/reviewer tools at the bottom of the page appear in Main and Template namespace. We are missing icons (images) for tag that is present on every page, before words/strings Unreviewed or Current revision, as well as bars in detailed view that can see user that is not logged in a wiki. The "plus" widget that is used to switch from detailed view of article status to simple is missing too.
**************** The rest of extensions is not tested on a new wiki, but we know that: InputBox http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox works in a simple example on http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:SDB that is the same version. There is more options in InputBox to test and see where this extension can be useful.
**************** Next extension to test is DynamicPageList which is described on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Intersection
From description, it can be useful to create list of articles that belong to few categories without need to create new category and add tags to all articles.
**************** Conclusion: Sorting articles in categories and subcategories is very important in order to use new tools.
It shifts majority of efforts on one time categorization of existing fond in the old wiki, and then export to new one category by category. New software allows us to name category and it will automatically create list of articles that are listed there, so it will be easier track transfer.
The files (images etc) is right now the most labor intensive. We have to see is it possible to categorize them and transfer as category, if not them we have to run quite a few downloads from old wiki and uploads to the new one.
-- Regards Rajko,
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2009/12/21 Jon Rocker <linux.learner@gmail.com>:
Excellent work. I am excited at how things are progressing.
I am noticing that on wiki.o.o it seems to keep loading. Like something isn't loading. I also noticed on the YaST page, it said "Invalid tag extension name: categorytree". Also having to clear the cookies to login to wiki.o.o is a problem when working with the old wiki.
I see the first and the last one as the most important to resolve.
I am really impressed, pleased, and excited at how this is coming along.
+1, please just do this with care!
Respectfully Jon Rocker
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 22:22, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
We imported pretty large body of articles from old wiki that will allow us to test wiki. Further imports will be done only if we really need article or group.
What is left to upload are images that are missing so that we can really test complete page layout. Right now we have bug that prevents creation of thumbnails so we have time to upload images.
The number of new features is quite large comparing to old wiki version 1.5, so we will have quite a job to test them. You can see list of features here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Version
**************** First to test was CategoryTree http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
It enables editors to create list of categories and articles in categories that are available on every page on the wiki.
This will allow us to have groups of articles with common navigation menu that is updated as soon as article is added to common category. Unlike current method of creating navbar (navigation bar) templates for each group of articles and updating that navbar every time new article is added, with <categorytree> tag all that wiki maintainers have to do is to ensure that new articles have proper [[Category:<nameit>]] link included at the end of article.
I started to create categories from YaST related articles, then used ready to go tag from mediwiki.org to test the wiki tag <categorytree>.
Some samples for preview are here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST http://wiki.opensuse.org/Category:YaST and live wiki that is using that tag is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
The "plus" widget that you can see in the mediwiki.org CategoryTree is missing in our wiki, which makes use of mode=pages problematic in:
<categorytree mode=pages style="float:right; clear:right; margin-left:1ex; border:1px solid gray; padding:0.7ex; background- color:white;">YaST</categorytree>
You can see on the page http://wiki.opensuse.org/YaST that there is no distinction between listed category and article in that category.
**************** The next in the list is Flagged Revisions. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
It is extension with a lot of options. I checked the basics. The editor/reviewer tools at the bottom of the page appear in Main and Template namespace. We are missing icons (images) for tag that is present on every page, before words/strings Unreviewed or Current revision, as well as bars in detailed view that can see user that is not logged in a wiki. The "plus" widget that is used to switch from detailed view of article status to simple is missing too.
**************** The rest of extensions is not tested on a new wiki, but we know that: InputBox http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox works in a simple example on http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:SDB that is the same version. There is more options in InputBox to test and see where this extension can be useful.
**************** Next extension to test is DynamicPageList which is described on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Intersection
From description, it can be useful to create list of articles that belong to few categories without need to create new category and add tags to all articles.
**************** Conclusion: Sorting articles in categories and subcategories is very important in order to use new tools.
It shifts majority of efforts on one time categorization of existing fond in the old wiki, and then export to new one category by category. New software allows us to name category and it will automatically create list of articles that are listed there, so it will be easier track transfer.
The files (images etc) is right now the most labor intensive. We have to see is it possible to categorize them and transfer as category, if not them we have to run quite a few downloads from old wiki and uploads to the new one.
-- Regards Rajko,
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Rajko M. wrote:
We imported pretty large body of articles from old wiki that will allow us to test wiki. Further imports will be done only if we really need article or group.
What is left to upload are images that are missing so that we can really test complete page layout. Right now we have bug that prevents creation of thumbnails so we have time to upload images.
The number of new features is quite large comparing to old wiki version 1.5, so we will have quite a job to test them. You can see list of features here: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Version
**************** Conclusion: Sorting articles in categories and subcategories is very important in order to use new tools.
It shifts majority of efforts on one time categorization of existing fond in the old wiki, and then export to new one category by category. New software allows us to name category and it will automatically create list of articles that are listed there, so it will be easier track transfer.
The files (images etc) is right now the most labor intensive. We have to see is it possible to categorize them and transfer as category, if not them we have to run quite a few downloads from old wiki and uploads to the new one.
Hello , Yes , a large amount of Articles have been transfered and i completely agree with you on transfereing only required content.So in order to that, IMO contents like sub-projects --Education ( which currently i am handling) , Project Namespace ( only required ones) , Project related content (like Members , Boards , etc) and so on should be included,concerned to that i guess a list would be a better option ( only for required content) so to have a smooth transition. Images part is labor intensive which i very much experienced yesterday with the Education thing.Hope that theres some way out. :P Few more thing i would like to point out is that , -( this is prior to the discussion of Frank and Shayon (me) ) 1) How do we mark pages that have been transferred/merged in the "old" wiki 1.1) A template is created which would mark and at the same will categorize the articles for the same. Template Link - http://en.opensuse.org/Template:TransferNote Category Link - http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Transfered_Articles 2)How we sort the Articles which do not follow the Article Template ( at least most of them should follow) 2.1) To mark the articles which do not follow the Article Template and categorize them at the same time a template is created Template Link - http://wiki.opensuse.org/Template:NoArticleTemplate Category Link - http://wiki.opensuse.org/Category:Article_Template_missing -- Regards, Shayon Mukherjee openSUSE Wiki Team http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Email: hkwarlock@gmail.com Twitter: ShayonM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Montag, 21. Dezember 2009, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
Rajko M. wrote: ...
The files (images etc) is right now the most labor intensive. We have to see is it possible to categorize them and transfer as category, if not them we have to run quite a few downloads from old wiki and uploads to the new one.
Images part is labor intensive which i very much experienced yesterday with the Education thing.Hope that theres some way out. :P
At least the file download can probably be automated - the server admin could make a tarball of all images and offer it for download. If you have a list of all images that should be transferred (a category should work), it isn't too hard to sort the images from the tarball.
1) How do we mark pages that have been transferred/merged in the "old" wiki 1.1) A template is created which would mark and at the same will categorize the articles for the same.
Template Link - http://en.opensuse.org/Template:TransferNote
The template should include a link to the new page so that people who want to make a change can do it in the new wiki. (Adding the link is easy if the page title didn't change, but needs a parameter if it changed...)
2)How we sort the Articles which do not follow the Article Template [...]
3) How do we mark articles that will _not_ be transferred to the new wiki? IMHO another template to mark them would be helpful. (Maybe marking a page for deletion will do the job since this is basically what will happen, but "will not be migrated" doesn't sound that destructive [1] ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] german wikipedia has a relevance discussion since some months (which means they delete too much etc.), therefore I'd like to avoid the term "delete" if possible ;-) --
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This answer to myself is to keep status of all tests in one thread. ...
**************** InputBox http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox
"align=left" (right) doesn't work It is included in a later version then the one that is installed on a wiki.o.o http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:InputBox has some examples, but I haven't time to create more complex. http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Sandbox is a sandbox, so examples there can be replaced with something else by any other editor. If not you can play with text on http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Sandbox/editintro_comment and http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Sandbox/preload to see effects. For more info see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Recently I tested extension MultiBoilerplate: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiBoilerplate on my local MediaWiki installation. The extension is meant to provide few templates when creating article. Author can choose one that best suits the topic. Extension by default will not overwrite existing article, but it can be instructed to do so. I can imagine some niche cases where this can be useful, but on our wiki in majority of cases this is not wanted, so we can keep the default, not to overwrite. There is no examples on our wiki as I wait for our admins to enable use of http://wiki.opensuse.org/MediaWiki:Multiboilerplate page where we can define pages that will be used as templates. This extension should work fine with InputBox related ability to create new pages, at least it did with few tests I performed with a same templates as you can find on http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Sandbox , so we can use both methods. Page with InputBox and minimal help on that page, for people editing wiki for the first time, and same templates in MultiBoilerplate for experienced editors that know what they want. -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Thanks for keeping us in the loop here. Good work! Best, R 2010/2/8 Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net>:
Recently I tested extension MultiBoilerplate: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiBoilerplate on my local MediaWiki installation.
The extension is meant to provide few templates when creating article. Author can choose one that best suits the topic.
Extension by default will not overwrite existing article, but it can be instructed to do so. I can imagine some niche cases where this can be useful, but on our wiki in majority of cases this is not wanted, so we can keep the default, not to overwrite.
There is no examples on our wiki as I wait for our admins to enable use of http://wiki.opensuse.org/MediaWiki:Multiboilerplate page where we can define pages that will be used as templates.
This extension should work fine with InputBox related ability to create new pages, at least it did with few tests I performed with a same templates as you can find on http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Sandbox , so we can use both methods.
Page with InputBox and minimal help on that page, for people editing wiki for the first time, and same templates in MultiBoilerplate for experienced editors that know what they want.
-- Regards Rajko,
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