... at the expense of thousands of present and future SuSE users who, from now on, won't be able to get their Intel and Smartlink modems, their wireless cards, or their ISDN cards to work. The very same devices that enable them to connect to the Internet... Some people foolish think this GPL "sharia" from the kernel folks is a sort of social engineering to pressure manufacturers to open their drivers code. Understand this once and for all: there have been, there are and always will be manufacturers that don't want to open their drivers code. It is their legitimate right to do so, and Linux must be able to peacefully coexist with this reality. On the user perspective, this "sharia" is just on more reason for not using SuSE... Mark
On Friday 17 February 2006 14:30, Mark Hellman wrote:
... at the expense of thousands of present and future SuSE users who, from now on, won't be able to get their Intel and Smartlink modems, their wireless cards, or their ISDN cards to work. The very same devices that enable them to connect to the Internet...
Except for when there are OSS drivers available, or companies develop drivers to exist in userspace.
Some people foolish think this GPL "sharia" from the kernel folks is a sort of social engineering to pressure manufacturers to open their drivers code. Understand this once and for all: there have been, there are and always will be manufacturers that don't want to open their drivers code. It is their legitimate right to do so, and Linux must be able to peacefully coexist with this reality. On the user perspective, this "sharia" is just on more reason for not using SuSE...
See userspace comment above. I think what you've said here was inflammatory, ridiculous, flawed, and a complete waste of time. If you're going to rant, please rant somewhere within reality, instead of sending out obviously uninformed crap.
Mark
Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin
Joseph M. Gaffney schrieb:
On Friday 17 February 2006 14:30, Mark Hellman wrote:
... at the expense of thousands of present and future SuSE users who, from now on, won't be able to get their Intel and Smartlink modems, their wireless cards, or their ISDN cards to work. The very same devices that enable them to connect to the Internet...
Except for when there are OSS drivers available, or companies develop drivers to exist in userspace.
Some people foolish think this GPL "sharia" from the kernel folks is a sort of social engineering to pressure manufacturers to open their drivers code. Understand this once and for all: there have been, there are and always will be manufacturers that don't want to open their drivers code. It is their legitimate right to do so, and Linux must be able to peacefully coexist with this reality. On the user perspective, this "sharia" is just on more reason for not using SuSE...
Why not look for a "Designed for Linux" logo, like there are are for "Designed for Windows XYZ". So just buy products where drivers are available.
André
André Schild wrote:
Why not look for a "Designed for Linux" logo, like there are are for "Designed for Windows XYZ". So just buy products where drivers are available.
I remember a "designed for NT" scanner who never worked under NT :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:30:44PM +0000, Mark Hellman wrote: <snip> And your point of posting this to the wiki group that has nothing to do with anything except the website is what? houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
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André Schild
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Joseph M. Gaffney
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Mark Hellman