Re: [opensuse-wiki] "Wiki Overhaul Weekend" suggestion for accelerated wiki cleanup
I'll add items as I run over them on wiki.
The http://en.opensuse.org/HCL has now tables, but it looks clumsy.
We can consdier to use overview table without details and paragraphs or
articles for additional information.
It is probably important to figure out what categories are necessary with the articles we have so far. This is a large task, I know. Once this has been established, we need to make sure new editors and authors of pages know that pages should be correctly categorized from the start. So we may need to have a page describing how articles should be categorized. What is a "HOWTO", what belongs in the SDB, what is an app description page, etc. Just to remove some of the confusion. This may also be accompanied with proper naming schemes. Maybe howtos should start with HOWTO: or the like. Maybe after a decent amount of categories are established, we suggest that authors of pages start new articles with this method: We could have a link on the category pages to "Create page in this Category." This would then bring up a blank page that has the author enter in the title and content. This page would then be created and would automatically add the category tag for the chosen category. Hopefully if authors are urged to use this method, it will reduce uncategorized pages and therefore reduce after-the-fact editing. This is all a lot further down the line as we still need to get through the initial meeting, find main problems and get some organization done. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Maybe after a decent amount of categories are established,
if we could have a category list at the bottom of the edit page (as there are help buttons), this could greatly enhance the categorization of the pages. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Maybe after a decent amount of categories are established,
if we could have a category list at the bottom of the edit page (as there are help buttons), this could greatly enhance the categorization of the pages.
jdd
Heyyy, yeah that's an excellent idea. That would probably help as it puts categories where they can be seen when they need to be. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008, jdd wrote:
Maybe after a decent amount of categories are established,
if we could have a category list at the bottom of the edit page (as there are help buttons), this could greatly enhance the categorization of the pages.
Good idea - clicking in a list is easier than typing {{Category:something}} ;-) - and it's less likely that users "forget" to add a category if a list is displayed. On a customer's wiki, I have installed the SelectCategoryTagCloud extension, which - big surprise ;-) - provides a tag cloud with all categories. It also shows category suggestions if you start to type a category name. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SelectCategoryTagCloud If we want to make the wiki even more editor-friendly, adding a WYSIWYG-Editor could be a good idea. I have FCKeditor running on the wiki mentioned above. (It's a special wiki version that produces "real" wiki text without HTML tags.) http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/ Technical note: First load SelectCategoryTagCloud, then FCKeditor. Things will break if you do it the other way round. Oh, and MediaWiki 1.11 has a bug that causes interesting problems with the mod_rewrite based URLs that are used on *.opensuse.org... Regards, Christian Boltz --
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Christian Boltz a écrit :
extension, which - big surprise ;-) - provides a tag cloud with all categories.
I don't really understand what is a "tag cloud", but this seems very interesting :-)
I have FCKeditor running on the wiki mentioned above. (It's a special wiki version that produces "real" wiki text without HTML tags.)
this one is no so well famed. I prefere saying to newbies "simply type a blank line between paragraphs and let the others make the setup"... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 21 February 2008 12:23:25 pm -- wrote:
It is probably important to figure out what categories are necessary with the articles we have so far. This is a large task, I know. Once this has been established, we need to make sure new editors and authors of pages know that pages should be correctly categorized from the start. So we may need to have a page describing how articles should be categorized. What is a "HOWTO", what belongs in the SDB, what is an app description page, etc. Just to remove some of the confusion. This may also be accompanied with proper naming schemes. Maybe howtos should start with HOWTO: or the like.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB-Howto-FAQ is official version created after some discussion. The namespace for HOWTOs is "howto:". I guess that should be changed to HOWTO, but I don't know how much work is that. Frank? Start with HOWTO is not good for wiki categories. Everything will be listed under "H". That is the reason to use HOWTO at the end of title. The same is valid for subpages. They are usefull for aditional article that comes with main one, but not as the way to sort articles. [1]
Maybe after a decent amount of categories are established, we suggest that authors of pages start new articles with this method: We could have a link on the category pages to "Create page in this Category." This would then bring up a blank page that has the author enter in the title and content. This page would then be created and would automatically add the category tag for the chosen category. Hopefully if authors are urged to use this method, it will reduce uncategorized pages and therefore reduce after-the-fact editing.
This brings another idea to create template pages for different purposes. Not wiki templates, but examples how to write.
This is all a lot further down the line as we still need to get through the initial meeting, find main problems and get some organization done.
I had no much time to look at. I'll see that tomorrow. BTW, please avoid special characters in the names. "LAN and Internet" is fine "Lan & Internet" is not that good as part of the URL. [1] While there is back link, there is no automatic forward reference to subpages. That sugests the intended use case, for instance, explanations to the article that might be good for someone new to topic, but not needed for those that are familiar, so after reading additional text go back to main one. -- Regards, Rajko. See http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
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