Hello, as you might know B1 Systems GmbH is a proud sponsor of the openSUSE project. We got contacted by some of the openSUSE Board member regarding supporting the opensuse wiki transition ... so here we are! Philipp, Michael and myself already had a brief look on the Transition Guildelines: http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_guidelines And already tried to move some already reviewed pages to the new instance. But we all really struggled with the current version of the Transition guidelines. In my opinion it's way to complex and requires way too much time to study all those guidelines before actually starting with the transition (Anyone really read all those Guidelines?!). In fact it was so confusing to me that i asked Henne for a meeting to give me the big-picture of the wiki transition. So the summary of this meeting is mostly: The current Transition Guidelines is a bit to complex for casual volunteers. (Btw. in Step1 and Step2 are instructions which sound to me redundant) The focus of the transition should be: Move (popular) content of the old-wiki in the right namespaces. There are basically three namespace which fit for 99% of the relevant content to transfer: Main-Namespace aka. / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Url: http://wiki.opensuse.org/$Article Which is intended for "Product" (openSUSE Distribution(s) and affiliations) presentation/showcase. One might think of a brochure - for people which are completely new to openSUSE and maybe "Linux" and want to get informed about the great distribution. And not which 100-line-bash-assembler-workaround and 2.5-firmware-patches and thirdparty kmps are required to get the latest webcam-chip running. So this might be one of the most important and namespaces which requires high quality content and regular maintenance. To make maintenance easier the number of pages might should be limited to a reasonable level. Quality, instead of quantity! In short: a potential user interested in openSUSE SDB-Namespace ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Url: http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:$Article This namespace might contain in the new instance most articles. (hennes guess was approx. 95% of the old wiki) This namespace is intended for: - HOWTOs - support instruction for common problems - setup instructions/guides ... directly related to the openSUSE Distribution(s). In short: stuff a plain-user would be interested. openSUSE-Namespace ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Url: http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:$Article This namespace contains: - Developments (Buildservice, Yast API details, ...) - Contributions (How to contribute a bug, artwork, ...) - Project-Organizational stuff (Board, ...) ... related to the openSUSE Distribution/Project. Contains _not_: distribution HOWTOs, Instructions, ... In short: content which is relevant for opensuse contributors, testers, developers .. and everything which is beyond a regular user. -- End of Namespaces -- Philipp, Michael and me are going to take the top 500 populare pages from the old instance and will assign them to the relevant namespaces. So casual volunteers don't have to puzzle which namespace is the right namespace. For the initial transition i would suggest to: - transfer the article to the right namespace (as written on the list we're going to provide) - with correct spelling/capitalization of the article name (URL) - adapt templates if needed That's all. That's should be a pretty simple instruction - and nearly none openSUSE Wiki-Background or Wikipedia-Guidelinde-Diploma is required. All further migration/transition listed items ... - "migrate the opensuse:Wiki Guidelines" - "migrate the standardized template" - detailed review of correct typesetting ("format check" and "content check") - "Ensure that title capitalization is lowercase" - "Use a navigation bar if required" (???) - "Ensure that articles are correctly categorized" (categorize != namespace.) # Is there already a list of predefined categorize? If not -> postpone ... of the process (from Step1 and 2) should be optional or done after the initial transition. For "Step 1: Article review" i would suggest to stop this step and just do brief "openSUSE relevant"- and obsolete-checks. And do more fine grain content and format checks as described in "Step 1" once the initial transition is done. Otherwise i doubt the review and transition will be ready by 1st June. Sorry, for this long mail - but I'm sure if you managed to read all those guidelines you're able to read this "long" mail. It's just an idea - if you don't like it we can try to adapt to your current process. Best Regards, Daniel -- Daniel Gollub Geschaeftsfuehrer: Ralph Dehner FOSS Developer Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg B1 Systems GmbH Amtsgericht: Ingolstadt Handelsregister: HRB 3537 EMail: gollub@b1-systems.de http://www.b1-systems.de Adresse: B1 Systems GmbH, Osterfeldstraße 7, 85088 Vohburg http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xED14B95C2F8CA78D