On Monday 26 July 2010 13:08:34 Juergen Weigert wrote:
Correct. If possible, please add comments to the links in the redirects page, so that we know why they are there, and can phase them out over time. E.g. 'Extern entity "http://foo.bar.baz" references this URL'
I used Talk pages of redirects to put [[Category:Redirects to delete]] there, but as I just discovered category can be included in the redirect page itself without problems. Do we have to reference who is pointing to old link? It would be ideal to do that, but as you can see from small sample on: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Missing_pages that can be quite long list for each redirect, and still miss all our docs. BTW, just tested 'link:"<url>"' and it doesn't work well, just as simple "<url>" doesn't, so numbers of hits are not really reliable. When to delete? I would leave that decision to some scheduled review process, where links will be reviewed periodically and removed if possible. Many will be obsolete after some time and then they can be removed without pain. Other will never change. In general: The transition doesn't mean that we have to change and break all stuff at once, but to set direction. Web and search engines will find new articles, but they need time and that can be few years. Problem with sites as our wiki is that they use article title as URL, so it is not easy to change title without breaking all links, ditto automatic creation of redirects, but also request to writers to watch how to name their creations, to prevent need for renaming. The problem with redirects is that they blur separation on namespaces by topics and attempt to keep distro presentation clean from problem solutions. Searching for ATI, with redirect you get problem solution article in SDB. Not really wanted for first time visitors. Solution can be to create ATI article instead of redirect that will present ATI at opensuse and include links to SDB. On the other hand broken links from other sites (web and our infrastructure) can make a lot more damage to openSUSE image then not so clean separation of content. Check Distrowatch and Alexa, and give your interpretation of trends. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org