On 20.05.2010 07:08, Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who engage in and work hard on the transition of Wiki.
I'm sorry if I missed important announcements and discussions on this list, but some things are still not quite clear to me.
1. After June 1st., when DNS entry for en.o.o will be switched, how can we reach the contents that are on the old instance (current en.o.o) and {aren't,won't be} transfered to the new instance?
We need to setup a subdomain for this, maybe enlegacy.o.o or sth. like that.
2. What will be needed for $LANG.o.o as soon as possible after June 1st.?
Is there any list, on which we can see which pages are expected to be updated on each $LANG.o.o promptly after the transition of en.o.o? Pages which are listed in 'Mandatory pages' on 'Help:Translation' are just enough? http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Translation#Mandatory_pages
I think many problems will be expected to occur after the transition. For example, since names of many pages on en.o.o will be moved to new names in accordance with the new concepts, many Interwiki links (at least, link to English page) in existing pages on $LANG.o.o will no longer work, and, since the version of MediaWiki and many templates are updated for en.o.o, when we create a new translation page on $LANG.o.o by copying the wiki source from the original page on en.o.o and pasting it to $LANG.o.o, the layout might be broken.
I am not sure if the wiki codebase is updated for all language wikis when we update en.o.o or just for that instance. But many interwiki links will be broken, true.
3. Any deadlines or milestones for transition of $LANG.o.o are assumed?
I read the thread 'German Wiki & Multi-Language Concept' on the archive of this list http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-wiki/2010-04/msg00002.html and noticed that 'creating a new languages-server languages.opensuse.org serving as a temporary instance for initial translation efforts' is proposed. Will it be realized and translators will be able to use those temporary instances for their transition? If not, when will all the $LANG.o.o be switched to new instance (I mean, when the version of MediaWiki for $LANG.o.o will be updated), or, will they remain as they are now?
There may be many other things we have to think of for transition of $LANG.o.o, but I don't think they are clear to translators ATM.
Isn't it about time we start to think of what are necessary after June 1st.?
I would not bet that we meet the deadline of June 1st., as the quality and the amount of content has not yet reached an acceptable state for the switch. I think after the migration of en.o.o the language wikis can also start to use the new structure and rules (see http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki) and be upgraded to the new codebase. The german wiki community already started working on that for the de.o.o version. Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org