Hello list-mates! This looks to be like becoming (again) an unproductive discussion about things in general without getting real things very much better. My personal opinion: Getting offended/aggressive/cynical (or letting that be shown to openly;-)) will not help anyone. What I personally would like to see: - an introducing and defining page/article about the kernel and the suse kernel versions - some more information about the (differences of the) "openSUSE kernel versions" - maybe an article about the software and the social thing(s) "git" in general - and this both/tree may help me to understand the old (openSUSE) kernel git article better? Due to my profession I have personally no problem with a long text (even if I may not understand all of it). But if I think just a bit of marketing issues/caring for some of the readers not experienced with Linux (especially with the kernel but also not with linux kernel based operating system at all): - beginners may be rejected by long articles - many technical terms in an article may discourage a beginner especially if they are not explained in the article itself or/and with a link to a defining/more explaining article - some people may be also discouraged if they do not understand all of an articles content. Maybe Rajko can confirm or disprove (or make more or less presumably) these theses with some references out of his web marketing books. And I would like if the members of the wiki-admin club and the wiki-team would act a bit more like that themselves, example: - terminal/console: http://en.opensuse.org/Terminal (an article mainly populated with bash commands) http://en.opensuse.org/Console (empty even the redirect is deleted) http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:What_is_a_console Also I do not like very much repeatedly/constantly moving content in and out of different namespaches especially if redirects get deleted afterwards and it get difficult for any user or search machine robot to find the same content at all. What about: - creating Portal:Kernel - making Brandon the responsible person for that portal - let him answer the discussion page questions concerning that portal and the pages linked form that - if an introducing article would be not easy to understand he will have the fun of it - giving Brandon editor rights so he can mark sighed (or undo) any edits on/in those articles Have a lot of fun (or at least less frustration) pistazienfresser P. S.: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/news/tech-news/443566-kernel-linux-2-6-35... -- - openSUSE 11.2 with GNOME 2.28.2 (or KDE 4.3.5) and Kernel Linux 2.6.31.12-0.2-pae (or default, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS 'lucid' 2.6.33-22-genetic, MS Win XP) - Samsung X20 Pentium M 740 (1730 MHz) Intel 915GM 1400x1050 - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org