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On Saturday 01 March 2008 07:18:38 pm Josh wrote:
In the category hierarchy we have been saving categories named documentation for articles actually *about* documentation. Shouldn't we do the same within the portal? Maybe the recently added Documentation page should be renamed to Help?
I would leave it as is. See explanation below.
Also, I'm thinking is that each portal page can have a main index page related to it which would be linked to at the top of the portal page. In this case, we would have a Help Portal (Portal:Help) and we would have that Documentation article (renamed to Help maybe). The Documentation article would have the dynamic content such as recently added, most wanted, etc and the nice layout with sections. The portal page would be just as they are now, a list of the articles in that category.
You have http://en.opensuse.org/Portal_New . That page is scratchpad, remove present and create some layout of your idea. Text only, or with images as placeholders, or completely as image of layout, whatever is easier for you. Make something that is visible.
Finally, in the documentation page, we have the configuration and HOWTOs sections. It seems not many people can tell the difference as the two categories contain the same articles in many cases. Many of which are written in a HOWTO style. Maybe we should drop that configuration section and just leave HOWTOs. This would prevent user confusion when they are looking for help on how to do things. Configuration pages are telling you *how to* configure something so it does fall in that category.
Agree. I tried to explain myself difference, and all I can see that articles in Configuration are subset of HOWTOs. Now some old stuff that I have forgotten about, but it explains main problem when wiki user is looking for help. First attempt is to browse or use search. Frank mentioned not so good search function and it seems that satisfaction with search was never high. I just stumbled over one old article http://en.opensuse.org/Help It was created in June 2006, when I was trying to cover single word search terms like help, mirrors, factory, hardware, kernel, boot, image, graphic, etc, by creating article that will offer available articles with that search term which should be lesser confusing than Search results. I didn't went far as that was way too much work for one man, but this is how categories, portal pages, indexes should be organized. First simple word, than subsections with articles. That way many articles will appear in few places, but they will be always found. That method corelates well with your idea of tag categories combined with subcategories. I'll try to create real model with few words (Tags) besides Help page. If it looks right than we can go and continue work. I'll use Popular pages and grep lines with few words like 'help' and see what will come out. Above means that we need sorted categories as base (template) for all other pages. So discussion and work continues. -- Regards, Rajko. See http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org