Bugzilla request: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629405 can produce longer discussion, so it would be better to use ML for that *** Having separate wiki.o.o was advantage with en.o.o, as it helped to create new structure without having ballast of backward compatibility on our neck that can spoil efforts and final result will be far from wanted. Our biggest problem after the switch was sudden and large change, which always creates tensions. People have aversion to change. With language wikis is different. They don't have backward compatibility problem, all they have now is problem how to get in sync with en.o.o. What is advantage of just updating? 1. We don't have to think about article histories and attribution to authors, they will be preserved with article move to new location. 2. When splitting articles all we have to do is: 2.1. create new article 2.2. leave message in a very first comment that tells: "This article is based on [[original_article_name]]." The new wiki allows to use syntax [[original_article_name]] which is converted to link to original article, even in comment field. 3. Move is much faster operation then export from one wiki and import to the other, plus all icons and logos are in place and can be replaced as time permits with those that are used in en.o.o. 4. The change will be stretched over the time which will give users a chance to adjust. 5. Search engines will not index temporary wiki. (Any more?) BTW, script (bot) that will browse wikis and update interwiki links is long overdue, so this can be opportunity to find or create one. Disadvantage: 1. A lot of article deletions, which can be handled with some of scripts in a maintenance directory like deleteBatch.php , or some extension that will remove all traces of deleted files like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Nuke . 2. There is need for careful planning, like listing articles in few categories: 1) keep (keep as is, split to, update) 2) obsolete good >> direct to Archive 3) obsolete and low quality >> delete 4) need expert help and probably more. Comments, please :) -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org