Re: [yast-devel] printer module redesign
Hi everyone, after the feedback I got from you, I made two new mock ups for the overview page: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_overview_2tabs.png http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_overview_4tabs.png I like the one with the four tabs best. This was also the conclusion drawn by our sysadmins and one of our designers. But see for yourself :-) Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz@novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
Dňa Monday 04 February 2008 11:50:07 Martin Schmidkunz ste napísal:
Hi everyone,
after the feedback I got from you, I made two new mock ups for the overview page: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_overview_2tabs.png http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_overview_4tabs.png
I like the one with the four tabs best. This was also the conclusion drawn by our sysadmins and one of our designers.
What is the difference between 'Remote configurations', 'Remote access' and 'Print via Network' ? Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
Martin Schmidkunz napsal(a):
Hi everyone,
after the feedback I got from you, I made two new mock ups for the overview page: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_overview_2tabs.png http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_overview_4tabs.png
I like the one with the four tabs best. This was also the conclusion drawn by our sysadmins and one of our designers.
Hi, Why "Local Configurations" instead of "Local Printers"? Why "Remote Configuration" instead of "Remote Printers" or "Network Printers"? Still no idea what "Remote Access" is and why should I click on that tab :( Still very confused with "Print via Network" and still no clue why should I click on that tab :( Buttons [Add] -> [Add Printer]? / [New Printer]? [Edit] -> [Configure]? / [Reconfigure]? [Delete] -> [Remove]? [Print Test Page] is pretty obvious :) Lukas
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
What is the difference between 'Remote configurations', 'Remote access' and 'Print via Network' ?
Remote Configurations show remote queues that are accessible but not editable for the user. Remote Access defines general remote access settings for local queues (do not allow remote access, allow access for local network, for certain network interface, for certain IP address/network Print via Network defines how the local computer uses the network for printing (use CUPS browsing, use one CUPS server, configure a network printer directly) In fact the tabs show the dialogs: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_printer_remoteaccess.png http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_print_via_network2.png and the lower half of http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_overview_testpage2.png just with a list of remote queues and a "Print Test Page" button on the right bottom. Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz@novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Why "Local Configurations" instead of "Local Printers"? Why "Remote Configuration" instead of "Remote Printers" or "Network Printers"?
According to Johannes, the term "printer" is meaningless. So we decided to use "configurations".
Still no idea what "Remote Access" is and why should I click on that tab :(
How would you name it?
Still very confused with "Print via Network" and still no clue why should I click on that tab :(
How would you name it?
Buttons [Add] -> [Add Printer]? / [New Printer]? [Edit] -> [Configure]? / [Reconfigure]? [Delete] -> [Remove]?
Because of the YaST style guide :-)
[Print Test Page] is pretty obvious :)
:-) Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz@novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
Martin Schmidkunz napsal(a):
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Why "Local Configurations" instead of "Local Printers"? Why "Remote Configuration" instead of "Remote Printers" or "Network Printers"?
According to Johannes, the term "printer" is meaningless. So we decided to use "configurations".
Considering the user experience, it's YaST Printer module, not YaST Configuration module. You expect to configure a printer / remote printer / remote queue / ... here. In my opinion, users are interested in printing, not configuring anything :) Having known the Johaness' opinion still didn't persuade me to accept it. Why "meaningless"?
Still no idea what "Remote Access" is and why should I click on that tab :(
How would you name it?
Is that about sharing my local printers as network printers? In that case, I'd rather define it for every single local printer. * Select a printer * Click [Edit] * Go to 'Sharing'
Still very confused with "Print via Network" and still no clue why should I click on that tab :(
How would you name it?
In my opinion, configuration should be transparent for users. They needn't have four or five tabs to configure their printer/s. Windows XP does this job much better with a single window.
Buttons [Add] -> [Add Printer]? / [New Printer]? [Edit] -> [Configure]? / [Reconfigure]? [Delete] -> [Remove]?
Because of the YaST style guide :-)
Oh, style-guide can be changed :) It's not a definite set of rules written into stone ;) L.
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Considering the user experience, it's YaST Printer module, not YaST Configuration module. You expect to configure a printer / remote printer / remote queue / ... here.
In my opinion, users are interested in printing, not configuring anything :) Having known the Johaness' opinion still didn't persuade me to accept it. Why "meaningless"?
It has something to do with that, that technically there are no printers in the printing system. But before I gossip around some half-truths, maybe Johannes should explain that to you.
Still no idea what "Remote Access" is and why should I click on that tab :( How would you name it?
Is that about sharing my local printers as network printers? In that case, I'd rather define it for every single local printer.
* Select a printer * Click [Edit] * Go to 'Sharing'
That is exactly how our model works. Remote Access -> general access settings (yes/no) Sharing (in edit dialog) -> allow users/host access to this special queue. Remote Access is the dialog shown in: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_printer_remoteaccess.png And sharing is the dialog shown in: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_printer_sharing.png Do you have any other naming suggestion for the "Remote Access" tab?
Still very confused with "Print via Network" and still no clue why should I click on that tab :( How would you name it?
In my opinion, configuration should be transparent for users. They needn't have four or five tabs to configure their printer/s. Windows XP does this job much better with a single window.
Again: Windows XP is clearly defined for home/desktop users. AFAIK this module should work for SLES as well. Windows Server 2003 for example uses more than a single window :-) Do you have any other naming suggestion for the "Print Via Network" tab?
Buttons [Add] -> [Add Printer]? / [New Printer]? [Edit] -> [Configure]? / [Reconfigure]? [Delete] -> [Remove]? Because of the YaST style guide :-)
Oh, style-guide can be changed :) It's not a definite set of rules written into stone ;)
Should we first try to have at least one style guide, which is applied before thinking of rewriting it again? :-) Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz@novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
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Stanislav Visnovsky