On Wednesday 06 February 2008 08:52:10 am Martin Schmidkunz wrote:
Hi everybody,
a quite wise CUPS expert once said "exchange dungeons by trees" and that was an inspiration for me to take your feedback and make another series of mock ups: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/Printer_Enhancement#Release_Candida te_2
What do you think about it?
The first feedbacks revealed a great sense of confusion about the amount and design of information presented in the overview. Thats why the space acquired by help was used for an overview. (Help as such will not be dropped it will move to a button within the navigation area :-)) One thought was to hide "print via network", "sharing" and "CUPS autoconfig" under a "Settings" category, but this idea was dropped as the word "Settings" as such is quite meaningless.
We also exchange "Remote Access" with "Share Printers" as this might be easier to understand.
I am looking forward to your comments,
Martin
Hi Martin, This proposal looks promising. <comments>------------------------------------------------------------ http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_rc2_overview_all.png * Left pane: Maybe singular 'Printer configuration' is better than 'Printer configurations', The same for 'Share printer' Print Via Network ? Any need for this with overview showing all printers? * What will do [Set filter]? Select what is presented? Than start (default value) can be [All_Printers] which tells that current selection is to see all printers. * What the wrench means? The one that can be configured or the one that has to be configured? * Column 'Status' Thick means: Configured, Available, Ready (for printing) ? X means: Not [Configured, Available, Ready (for printing)] ? IMHO, text will tell more than graphic that needs another table to map symbols to its meaning. It reminds me on one culture that used icons (hieroglyph) too much. * Overall: Now I have list of printers, I can Add more to the list, Edit configuration of existing printers, Delete - Remove printers, select what printers will be displayed in the list. How do I select what printer I want to use? Some remote can be on the other side of the building. In this way Add and Edit will replace right pane with configuration options for selected printer and button [Back to List] instead of [Next] will bring list of printers. BTW, I would use word 'printer' to mark whole set consisting of 'queue and device', and when necessary to avoid ambiguity use 'printer queue' or 'printing device'. Otherwise we will end in a land of pain writing many times explanation to new users that 'printing queue' is the same as 'printer' in this setup. What should be added to this is ability to mark printer as shared, and option to let CUPS select best values and configure printer. Both can be placed in 2 columns with checkmark for 'yes' and empty cell for 'no'. I guess that Share needs additional screen to set who can use printer. This will allow admin to set that only guys from Shipping can use the printer, but not from Receiving. http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_rc2_overview_remote.png * [Set filter] should be now on [Network Printers] or [Remote Printers]. http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_rc2_printvianetwork.png This one got me :-) I can't get it. <new_user> What is CUPS Browsing? What is remote CUPS server? How do I print via server? What is ... How do I set up printer that is connected to another computer? </new_user> <old_user> Hey, young man, this is CUPS, it is not a window. </old_user> http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_rc2_overview_sharing.png As with one above I can't say what part of printer setup flow this represents. Why I need interfaces and networks? If I say that I want to use XYZ printer in overview, than interface doesn't matter, it should be defined as well as network. Maybe I don't understand for what use case it is needed to limit access depending on network interface or network where computer is located. For administrators would be far easier to tell which group of users can use printer, without thinking where they are located in network, but knowing only physical location of printer. Wording: 'Allow Remote Access for Local Network' is that mean remote access from outside? 'Only computers on local network can use this printer' is probably easier to understand. </comments>---------------------------------------------------------------- It seems that setup workflow is not clearly defined, or better to say I don't understand what workflow is served with current UI proposal. We should probably try to start from list of printers http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Printer_mschmidkunz_rc2_overview_all.png add few columns that will express administrator wishes, like allow or deny access to users and groups, networks and interfaces, creating groups of printers, and do the same allow/deny for them, than it will be possible to see how to do each of operations add, edit, remove, access control, grouping (anything else?). -- Regards, Rajko. See http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org