Pascal Bleser schrieb:
As a long-time Linux user, I definitely _want_ to see the full-blown partitioner during the installation. I always set it up with Software RAID1, LVM, several LV partitions for /, /boot, /usr, /var, /home, etc...
Please don't discard the full-blown partitioner from the installation for experts ;)
As you already mentioned: it makes pretty much sense for experts to enter a full-blown partitioner during installation :-)
Currently the automatic partitioning proposals are a bit dry IMO. It would be very nice to have a graphical representation of the proposal with just very few options to change it (or select "expert mode" to fiddle with it).
Yes, it makes sense to have that for users with some experience. And I think that following your layout makes sense.
But note that this part would be quite difficult to render with the ncurses (text) interface of YaST2. Needs an alternative representation there.
Yapp. On the other hand, we can do something sophisticated there as people using ncurses are no newbies :-)
I think it's important to detect Windows partitions and label them accordingly (the logic being quite simple to determine what's C:, D:, ...), actually displaying "C:", "D:", etc... - because less experienced users only understand that. Telling them "disk 1 partition 2" won't let them know the installer is going to shrink their D: where they've got all their movies and MP3s ;)
Good point. We are doing some this already, but it is an issue that can't be stressed enough :-)
Just install a basic desktop system. Once we have a better and easier interface to "add applications", it will be a snap to install OpenOffice.org and such later on.
Mhm. But that would destroy the advantage that our marketing guys are stressing and that makes many, many users extremly happy: to have one working system for basic tasks out of the box and not to be forced to install many additional apps until you can use your system. This is the Windows/Linspire apporach and I don't think we should follow their example. There is a cool Mac vs. PC on apple.com about that :-)
The other advantage being that the installation would be *quick*, something not to underestimate, even wrt usability.
Mhm. Ubuntu is installing some basic apps like gimp or oo and it is still quite quick :-)
Obviously, we still need an expert mode here, with full-blown selection of packages, patterns, etc... (that's already in the installer right now).
Agreed.
I know, but maybe choosing a non-discriminating label would already do the trick ;) Or maybe just label it "Quick installation".. ?
Mhm. Doing the old windows trick: * custom installation (quick and recommended) * advanced installation Sounds nice to me.
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