I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found. I don't want to just delete stuff and I'm assuming I can use YAST to get the programs (like update to arts) that it says it needs. I search the SUSE website but only found reference to updates and YAST. A readme file would be fine. I'm using SuSE 9.1 Pro. -- Russ
Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found. I don't want to just delete stuff and I'm assuming I can use YAST to get the programs (like update to arts) that it says it needs.
I search the SUSE website but only found reference to updates and YAST. A readme file would be fine.
I'm using SuSE 9.1 Pro.
go to www.rpm.pbone.net and type in whatever yast says that it needs, whether a package or a .so file. (I suggest that you use the adanced search)
On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 02:39, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found. I don't want to just delete stuff and I'm assuming I can use YAST to get the programs (like update to arts) that it says it needs.
I search the SUSE website but only found reference to updates and YAST. A readme file would be fine.
I'm using SuSE 9.1 Pro. -- Russ
A list of the programs it wants to ermove would help you should be able to find all the programes you need for the upgrade on your CDś or the Suse web sites.. I have upgraede from stock out of the box to 3,3,1 as the updates come out with no great hassle , which is more than i can say for the darn Gnome stuff that is a total cockup and does not run now at all (mind you it only crawled before) .. Pete -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
On Friday 15 October 2004 11:04 pm, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 02:39, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found. I don't want to just delete stuff and I'm assuming I can use YAST to get the programs (like update to arts) that it says it needs.
I search the SUSE website but only found reference to updates and YAST. A readme file would be fine.
I'm using SuSE 9.1 Pro. -- Russ
A list of the programs it wants to ermove would help you should be able to find all the programes you need for the upgrade on your CDś or the Suse web sites..
I have upgraede from stock out of the box to 3,3,1 as the updates come out with no great hassle , which is more than i can say for the darn Gnome stuff that is a total cockup and does not run now at all (mind you it only crawled before) ..
Pete
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner .. Peter here is the output from the dependence checker. As you can see there is a long list. I still not sure if I need to delete all these and if YAST will get all the need files from the FTP server. #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2004-10-15 15:13:01 ####
arts 1.3.1-3 conflict Required by: kdelibs3 requires arts >= 1.3.1- Unresolved Requirements: arts requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove All 49 Referring Packages Delete kdeartwork3-xscreensaver Delete xmms-kde Delete kdegraphics3-postscript Delete kdegames3 Delete kdeutils3-laptop Delete kdemultimedia3 Delete kdebase3-kdm Delete kaffeine 41 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies digikam 0.6.9.20040920-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: digikam requires libImlib2.so.1 digikam requires libsqlite.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdeaddons3-konqueror 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdeaddons3-konqueror ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdebase3 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdebase3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdebase3 ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdelibs3 3.3.1-3 conflict Required by: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libkimproxy.so.0 kdebase3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdegames3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdegraphics3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdemultimedia3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdenetwork3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdepim3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdeutils3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.0- Unresolved Requirements: kdelibs3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdelibs3 ( ) Remove All 17 Referring Packages Delete kdebase3 Delete kdegames3 Delete susehelp_en Delete susehelp Delete thinkeramik Delete kdebase3-SuSE Delete kdegraphics3-fax Delete kdebase3-nsplugin 9 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3 ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3-jukebox 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3-jukebox requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3-jukebox ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3-sound 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3-sound requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3-sound ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libImlib2.so.1 not available Required by: digikam requires libImlib2.so.1 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove the Referring Package Delete digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libjack.so.0 not available Required by: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libjack.so.0 kdebase3 requires libjack.so.0 kdelibs3 requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3 requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3-jukebox requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3-sound requires libjack.so.0 arts requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove All 51 Referring Packages Delete arts Delete kdebase3 Delete kdeartwork3-xscreensaver Delete xmms-kde Delete kdegraphics3-postscript Delete kdegames3 Delete kdeutils3-laptop Delete kdemultimedia3 43 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libsqlite.so.0 not available Required by: digikam requires libsqlite.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove the Referring Package Delete digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### -- Russ
On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 20:36, Russ wrote:
On Friday 15 October 2004 11:04 pm, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 02:39, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found. I don't want to just delete stuff and I'm assuming I can use YAST to get the programs (like update to arts) that it says it needs.
I search the SUSE website but only found reference to updates and YAST. A readme file would be fine.
I'm using SuSE 9.1 Pro. -- Russ
A list of the programs it wants to ermove would help you should be able to find all the programes you need for the upgrade on your CDś or the Suse web sites..
I have upgraede from stock out of the box to 3,3,1 as the updates come out with no great hassle , which is more than i can say for the darn Gnome stuff that is a total cockup and does not run now at all (mind you it only crawled before) ..
Pete
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
Peter here is the output from the dependence checker. As you can see there is a long list. I still not sure if I need to delete all these and if YAST will get all the need files from the FTP server. #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2004-10-15 15:13:01 ####
arts 1.3.1-3 conflict Required by: kdelibs3 requires arts >= 1.3.1- Unresolved Requirements: arts requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove All 49 Referring Packages Delete kdeartwork3-xscreensaver Delete xmms-kde Delete kdegraphics3-postscript Delete kdegames3 Delete kdeutils3-laptop Delete kdemultimedia3 Delete kdebase3-kdm Delete kaffeine 41 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies digikam 0.6.9.20040920-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: digikam requires libImlib2.so.1 digikam requires libsqlite.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdeaddons3-konqueror 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdeaddons3-konqueror ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdebase3 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdebase3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdebase3 ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdelibs3 3.3.1-3 conflict Required by: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libkimproxy.so.0 kdebase3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdegames3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdegraphics3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdemultimedia3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdenetwork3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdepim3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdeutils3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.0- Unresolved Requirements: kdelibs3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdelibs3 ( ) Remove All 17 Referring Packages Delete kdebase3 Delete kdegames3 Delete susehelp_en Delete susehelp Delete thinkeramik Delete kdebase3-SuSE Delete kdegraphics3-fax Delete kdebase3-nsplugin 9 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3 ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3-jukebox 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3-jukebox requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3-jukebox ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3-sound 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3-sound requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3-sound ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libImlib2.so.1 not available Required by: digikam requires libImlib2.so.1 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove the Referring Package Delete digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libjack.so.0 not available Required by: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libjack.so.0 kdebase3 requires libjack.so.0 kdelibs3 requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3 requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3-jukebox requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3-sound requires libjack.so.0 arts requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove All 51 Referring Packages Delete arts Delete kdebase3 Delete kdeartwork3-xscreensaver Delete xmms-kde Delete kdegraphics3-postscript Delete kdegames3 Delete kdeutils3-laptop Delete kdemultimedia3 43 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libsqlite.so.0 not available Required by: digikam requires libsqlite.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove the Referring Package Delete digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies
#### YaST2 conflicts list END ###
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Russ
Hi Russ From what i can see there it appeares to be down to yast trying to install stuff then finding it needs the libs installed first not finding them and complaining . I had thought that yast was a little more inteligent than that when it comes to installing KDE but obviousley not . I have to admit i tend to pull the updates down using wget then install them from a directory using "rpm -vUh --force --nodeps *rpm" i know there are people out there that are going to say dont under any circumstances do that but it works every time for me and i very rarely get any problems at all . But also when doing an update like that i come out of graphical mode completely with Ctrl+Alt+F1 login as root then run init 3 carry out the update run init 5 and bingo KDE up and running .. Hope this gives you a little help maybe others casn offer other ways of doing similar .. YMMV Pete . -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
On Saturday 16 October 2004 02:28 pm, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 20:36, Russ wrote:
On Friday 15 October 2004 11:04 pm, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 02:39, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found. I don't want to just delete stuff and I'm assuming I can use YAST to get the programs (like update to arts) that it says it needs.
I search the SUSE website but only found reference to updates and YAST. A readme file would be fine.
I'm using SuSE 9.1 Pro. -- Russ
A list of the programs it wants to ermove would help you should be able to find all the programes you need for the upgrade on your CDś or the Suse web sites..
I have upgraede from stock out of the box to 3,3,1 as the updates come out with no great hassle , which is more than i can say for the darn Gnome stuff that is a total cockup and does not run now at all (mind you it only crawled before) ..
Pete
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
Peter here is the output from the dependence checker. As you can see there is a long list. I still not sure if I need to delete all these and if YAST will get all the need files from the FTP server. #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2004-10-15 15:13:01 ####
arts 1.3.1-3 conflict Required by: kdelibs3 requires arts >= 1.3.1- Unresolved Requirements: arts requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove All 49 Referring Packages Delete kdeartwork3-xscreensaver Delete xmms-kde Delete kdegraphics3-postscript Delete kdegames3 Delete kdeutils3-laptop Delete kdemultimedia3 Delete kdebase3-kdm Delete kaffeine 41 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies digikam 0.6.9.20040920-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: digikam requires libImlib2.so.1 digikam requires libsqlite.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdeaddons3-konqueror 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdeaddons3-konqueror ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdebase3 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdebase3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdebase3 ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdelibs3 3.3.1-3 conflict Required by: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libkimproxy.so.0 kdebase3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdegames3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdegraphics3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdemultimedia3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdenetwork3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdepim3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.1- kdeutils3 requires kdelibs3 >= 3.3.0- Unresolved Requirements: kdelibs3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdelibs3 ( ) Remove All 17 Referring Packages Delete kdebase3 Delete kdegames3 Delete susehelp_en Delete susehelp Delete thinkeramik Delete kdebase3-SuSE Delete kdegraphics3-fax Delete kdebase3-nsplugin 9 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3 requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3 ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3-jukebox 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3-jukebox requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3-jukebox ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies kdemultimedia3-sound 3.3.1-3 conflict Unresolved Requirements: kdemultimedia3-sound requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Do Not Update kdemultimedia3-sound ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libImlib2.so.1 not available Required by: digikam requires libImlib2.so.1 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove the Referring Package Delete digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libjack.so.0 not available Required by: kdeaddons3-konqueror requires libjack.so.0 kdebase3 requires libjack.so.0 kdelibs3 requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3 requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3-jukebox requires libjack.so.0 kdemultimedia3-sound requires libjack.so.0 arts requires libjack.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove All 51 Referring Packages Delete arts Delete kdebase3 Delete kdeartwork3-xscreensaver Delete xmms-kde Delete kdegraphics3-postscript Delete kdegames3 Delete kdeutils3-laptop Delete kdemultimedia3 43 more... ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies libsqlite.so.0 not available Required by: digikam requires libsqlite.so.0 Conflict Resolution: ( ) Remove the Referring Package Delete digikam ( ) Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies
#### YaST2 conflicts list END ###
--
Russ
Hi Russ
From what i can see there it appeares to be down to yast trying to install stuff then finding it needs the libs installed first not finding them and complaining .
I had thought that yast was a little more inteligent than that when it comes to installing KDE but obviousley not .
I have to admit i tend to pull the updates down using wget then install them from a directory using "rpm -vUh --force --nodeps *rpm" i know there are people out there that are going to say dont under any circumstances do that but it works every time for me and i very rarely get any problems at all .
But also when doing an update like that i come out of graphical mode completely with Ctrl+Alt+F1 login as root then run init 3 carry out the update run init 5 and bingo KDE up and running ..
Hope this gives you a little help maybe others casn offer other ways of doing similar ..
YMMV
Pete .
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner .. I actually recieved another response that gave me a way to do the update using YAST with the FTP site and the install CD and the system update function. It worked and all the conflicts were resolved. The only problem I see is I lost my distribution lists in kmail, contacts are still there. I can recreate the lists.
Everything else is working so far, stll need to check a few things. Thanks again for your response and I'll keep it filed for future reference. The only reason not to end MS is the money my wifehas made and is making on their stock. Once I get scribus understood and working to replace my publisher stuff I will only need to set up a web server and test environment for the webpage I support. It runs on a Linux sever and will be easier to support from Linux. Are their any good FTP programs you know of? -- Russ
The only reason not to end MS is the money my wifehas made and is making on their stock. Once I get scribus understood and working to replace my publisher stuff I will only need to set up a web server and test environment for the webpage I support. It runs on a Linux sever and will be easier to support from Linux. Are their any good FTP programs you know of?
To be honest, the best "ftp program" I've found is Konqueror. just enter ftp://user:password@domain.com, and you'll be logged in, and be able to open files via a "virtual file system." Konq treats the FTP connection almost the same as if you had the files stored locally on your system. This also works in numerous KDE programs that bring up a file requestor. Want to open a comma-separated file in OOo's spreadsheet app? File > Open > ftp://user:pw:domain.com, browse to file, open, make changes, save... It goes right back on the server. I used to use gftp all the time until I found out about using Konqueror as an FTP client. Steve
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 07:16 am, Steve Kratz wrote:
The only reason not to end MS is the money my wifehas made and is making on their stock. Once I get scribus understood and working to replace my publisher stuff I will only need to set up a web server and test environment for the webpage I support. It runs on a Linux sever and will be easier to support from Linux. Are their any good FTP programs you know of?
To be honest, the best "ftp program" I've found is Konqueror. just enter ftp://user:password@domain.com, and you'll be logged in, and be able to open files via a "virtual file system." Konq treats the FTP connection almost the same as if you had the files stored locally on your system.
This also works in numerous KDE programs that bring up a file requestor. Want to open a comma-separated file in OOo's spreadsheet app? File > Open > ftp://user:pw:domain.com, browse to file, open, make changes, save... It goes right back on the server.
I used to use gftp all the time until I found out about using Konqueror as an FTP client.
Steve Thanks Steve, I'll try that. What I'm trying to do is develop and update webpages on my system, then transfer them to the ISP that runs our webpage. In the past I used Personnel Webserver on WinME to test developed pages. Then FTP to transfer them to the ISP Server anfter making mods to allow for the fact the ISP ran a version of Linux. Now I plan to install a server for testing under SUSE, then FTP the completed pages and updates. Is Apache the right server to install for testing.
-- Russ
Thanks Steve, I'll try that. What I'm trying to do is develop and update webpages on my system, then transfer them to the ISP that runs our webpage. In the past I used Personnel Webserver on WinME to test developed pages. Then FTP to transfer them to the ISP Server anfter making mods to allow for the fact the ISP ran a version of Linux. Now I plan to install a server for testing under SUSE, then FTP the completed pages and updates. Is Apache the right server to install for testing.
Yep -- Apache's it... (Or Apache2... But, I've never even installed it myself - but I'm sure there's lots of people on the list here that can help if the need arises)
Steve Kratz wrote:
Thanks Steve, I'll try that. What I'm trying to do is develop and update webpages on my system, then transfer them to the ISP that runs our webpage. In the past I used Personnel Webserver on WinME to test developed pages. Then FTP to transfer them to the ISP Server anfter making mods to allow for the fact the ISP ran a version of Linux. Now I plan to install a server for testing under SUSE, then FTP the completed pages and updates. Is Apache the right server to install for testing.
Yep -- Apache's it... (Or Apache2... But, I've never even installed it myself - but I'm sure there's lots of people on the list here that can help if the need arises)
Apache2 works great for that. There's a little bit to learning where to put things and possibly setting up access to development directories for your stuff, but it's certainly doable. Good luck, Jim
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 06:16, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Steve Kratz wrote:
Thanks Steve, I'll try that. What I'm trying to do is develop and update webpages on my system, then transfer them to the ISP that runs our webpage. In the past I used Personnel Webserver on WinME to test developed pages. Then FTP to transfer them to the ISP Server anfter making mods to allow for the fact the ISP ran a version of Linux. Now I plan to install a server for testing under SUSE, then FTP the completed pages and updates. Is Apache the right server to install for testing.
Yep -- Apache's it... (Or Apache2... But, I've never even installed it myself - but I'm sure there's lots of people on the list here that can help if the need arises)
Apache2 works great for that. There's a little bit to learning where to put things and possibly setting up access to development directories for your stuff, but it's certainly doable.
No problem, easy, it's just a little configuration, there are the config files of apache, you might need to go through them to customize your setup to your needs. But it works out of the box. Just install it (apache or the new version, apache2), start it "rcapache2 start" (as root, in a terminal), and it runs. Put your files in the document directory, and your server will show them. HTH, Matt
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:16 am, Steve Kratz wrote:
To be honest, the best "ftp program" I've found is Konqueror. just enter ftp://user:password@domain.com, and you'll be logged in,
It is convenient, but Konq stores this info and will display it--including the username and password-- with other site hints on the address bar drop down. Probably OK for a single-user box, but less good for a box that several users share with one account (depending upon the ftp site...). -- ____________________________________________________ Another Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC 477 Congress Street Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 21:06, L. Mark Stone wrote:
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:16 am, Steve Kratz wrote:
To be honest, the best "ftp program" I've found is Konqueror. just enter ftp://user:password@domain.com, and you'll be logged in,
It is convenient, but Konq stores this info and will display it--including
Better use this kind of URL: ftp://user@domain.com and fill in the password in the dialogbox that pops up. This way the password is not stored somewhere, it merely travels unencrypted over the net. :-o
the username and password-- with other site hints on the address bar drop down.
Probably OK for a single-user box, but less good for a box that several users share with one account (depending upon the ftp site...).
Here is a safer option: Set up an ssh account instead of an ftp account. Use scp or rsync --rsh=ssh to copy resp. files or files & directories. As a bonus ;) Konqy supports this too in the form of the fish:// protocol. See Info Center -> Protocols -> fish. Usage: fish://user@domain.com (a valid ssh account is needed at the domain.com server). It seems even possible to setup ssh on W*nd*ws machines, so fish might work too, but I am not sure about that... Cheers, Leen
On Saturday, 16 October 2004 23.28, peter Nikolic wrote:
I have to admit i tend to pull the updates down using wget then install them from a directory using "rpm -vUh --force --nodeps *rpm" i know there are people out there that are going to say dont under any circumstances do that but it works every time for me and i very rarely get any problems at all .
Do you also use a saw when doing jigsaw puzzles? The main problem with using --force is that you completely disable rpm's sanity and consistency checks, so if you get a bad rpm, rpm won't warn you that it's about to do bad things, like overwrite files, or install unsigned rpms. And ignoring dependencies will get you into trouble, if only when you do a system upgrade So --force works fine as long as you only do it on good rpms. The question then is how far do you trust the rpm packagers?
arts requires libjack.so.0 digikam requires libImlib2.so.1 digikam requires libsqlite.so.0
libjack.so.0 is provided by the jack.rpm package on the 9.1 pro CDs libImlib2.so.1 is provided by the imlib2.rpm package on the 9.1 pro CDs, or the updated rpm from packman.links2linux.de libsqlite.so.0 is provided by the sqlite.rpm package on the 9.1 pro CDs You might want to check what the installer wants to do to those packages. Maybe they're marked as "don't touch" or something
On Friday, October 15, 2004 09:39 pm, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found.
Easiest (for me) is to do the following with YaST: Add the ftp.gwdg.de ftp site as an http installation source. You'll need to specify the exact directory for the KDE supplemental "yast source" folder. Move this installation source above your original DVD (or however you installed SuSE) source, make sure that both sources are "On" and that your original installation source is available. Finish with this YaST module and then launch the System Update module. On the first screen, allow YaST to create a backup if you like. Then on the next screen, choose "Update installed packages only" and uncheck "delete unmaintained packages". Resolve any conflicts and after YaST finishes, log off and log back in to get your new KDE. Have fun, Mark -- ____________________________________________________ Another Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC 477 Congress Street Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678
On Friday, October 15, 2004 09:39 pm, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found.
Easiest (for me) is to do the following with YaST:
Add the ftp.gwdg.de ftp site as an http installation source. You'll need to specify the exact directory for the KDE supplemental "yast source" folder.
Move this installation source above your original DVD (or however you installed SuSE) source, make sure that both sources are "On" and that your original installation source is available.
Finish with this YaST module and then launch the System Update module. On the first screen, allow YaST to create a backup if you like. Then on the next screen, choose "Update installed packages only" and uncheck "delete unmaintained packages". Resolve any conflicts and after YaST finishes, log off and log back in to get your new KDE.
Have fun, Mark Mark your method worked great. I used FTP instead of http but all is updated and working. I lost my email distribution list but all my contacts are still
On Saturday 16 October 2004 12:17 pm, L. Mark Stone wrote: present so I can recreate them. Thanks again for your help!!! -- Russ
On Saturday, October 16, 2004 09:33 pm, Russ wrote:
On Saturday 16 October 2004 12:17 pm, L. Mark Stone wrote:
On Friday, October 15, 2004 09:39 pm, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1.
Easiest (for me) is to do the following with YaST: <snip> Mark your method worked great. I used FTP instead of http but all is updated and working. I lost my email distribution list but all my contacts are still present so I can recreate them.
Thanks again for your help!!!
You are welcome. I find I also lose filters in Kmail when I do this, but they are pretty easy to recreate. Next time I'll back up my .kde directory first and then figure out where all the filters are (probably I should read the documentation as well...) Best regards, Mark -- ____________________________________________________ Another Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC 477 Congress Street Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678
On Sunday 17 October 2004 03:33, Russ wrote:
Mark your method worked great. I used FTP instead of http but all is updated and working. I lost my email distribution list but all my contacts are still present so I can recreate them.
The ftp address can be converted to the http address, just by replacing ftp:// by http://. ;) Give it a try to see if it works. Cheers, Leen
On Saturday 16 October 2004 21:33, Russ wrote:
On Saturday 16 October 2004 12:17 pm, L. Mark Stone wrote: ..........<snip>..........
Mark your method worked great. I used FTP instead of http but all is updated and working. I lost my email distribution list but all my contacts are still present so I can recreate them.
Russ, Go to your personal home directory and open .kde (hidden file) then to /share/apps/kabc In that directory see if there are any std.vcf files. They should still be there. If they are you can rebuild your addressbook contacts by right-clicking on them and using the file manager to restore them. Hope it works for you. Bob S.
On Sunday 17 Oct 2004 02:33, Russ wrote:
On Saturday 16 October 2004 12:17 pm, L. Mark Stone wrote:
On Friday, October 15, 2004 09:39 pm, Russ wrote:
I'm new to Linux and am trying to update my KDE3.2.1 to 3.3.1. When I do the update from supplemental and then check dependences I get a list of over 40 programs it wants to remove and several it says it needs. Is there a document somewhere that explains the steps to use when dependences are found.
Easiest (for me) is to do the following with YaST:
Add the ftp.gwdg.de ftp site as an http installation source. You'll need to specify the exact directory for the KDE supplemental "yast source" folder.
Move this installation source above your original DVD (or however you installed SuSE) source, make sure that both sources are "On" and that your original installation source is available.
Finish with this YaST module and then launch the System Update module. On the first screen, allow YaST to create a backup if you like. Then on the next screen, choose "Update installed packages only" and uncheck "delete unmaintained packages". Resolve any conflicts and after YaST finishes, log off and log back in to get your new KDE.
Have fun, Mark
Mark your method worked great. I used FTP instead of http but all is updated and working. I lost my email distribution list but all my contacts are still present so I can recreate them.
Thanks again for your help!!!
-- Russ
There you go russ what did i say out the wood work they come with ideas galore . I have to say one thing thou doing it my way i have never lost any stored data ie mailing lists address book entrys so like i said before swings and roundabouts .. Cheers Pette each to there own . -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
tried to change installation directory in yast. no matter what server is entered, the following error message always comes out: "Unable to create installation source from URL 'ftp://129.79.5.130/' Details: ERROR (InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media) Try again? This is the latest server I tried. It is the server where i ftp'd my 9.0 and 9.1 installations: My working installation source *is* the same server, it just points to/linux/suse/suse/i386/9.1 (or 9.0 in my 9.0 installation) the kde 3.3 dir is /linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1,(9.0 for 9.0) i KNOW that: I dl'd the files from that directory and did a successful manual install on 9.0, i would just like to do 9.1 thru yast. I could not even edit the path in the one working installation source entry, got the same message again! any ideas? Does yast prevent adding / editing an install directory in the download version? tia
On Sunday 17 October 2004 2:44 am, plain wrote:
This is the latest server I tried. It is the server where i ftp'd my 9.0 and 9.1 installations: My working installation source *is* the same server, it just points
to/linux/suse/suse/i386/9.1 (or 9.0 in my 9.0 installation)
the kde 3.3 dir is /linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1,(9.0 for 9.0)
Try adding yast-source to the path. /linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1,/yast-source. Rich -- Rich Matson Reno, Nv. USA
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