Simon Becherer composed on 2018-09-23 20:39 (UTC+0200):

i have 5 hardware + software identical systems, only monitor's (always 2 pices) are at one system different.

It is unclear the meaning of this statement. 5 computers? One computer that behaves differently from one (or more) other computers? All computers are OK except for one?

on this system, after update i have no output at screen (only black) at tty 1 to 6. xorg/kde (tty7 graphic is fine)

also at loginscreen switching with ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 only black screen's only f7 will work. booting on the same hardware a second tumbleweed installed, same version, but without graphic system installed, there at loginpromt i am able to switch without problems tty.

at boot i see the "first part" of the bootmessages, and then at some point screen went black and after some seconds i get graphical login screen

but normally i should see longer the bootmessages, normally screen went short black, then messages continue to scroll over screen, and after that the graphical loginscreen will appear.

also i do not have any shutdown messages at screen, pressing inside kde shutdown, screen turns black and after a while power will got away.

what should i search (maybe inside journal) to find the problem? or is this a know issue?

It's hard to say exactly what to look for. Take a look for guidance at: <https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/archive/42.1/reference/html/book.opensuse.reference/cha.journalctl.html>

should i asked at the factory@ list because it has something to do with a tumbleweed update?

Preferred location is opensuse-support@opensuse.org until such time as it might become known to be a bug rather than a user or installation-specific problem. Does the failure occur regardless whether you use the left or right Ctrl key? Can you try a different keyboard on the one where 1-6 are not reachable? Does it help at all to boot to the previously installed kernel? It's possible you have acquired a Plymouth problem. You can temporarily disable Plymouth to find out at the Grub menu. Type an "e" it opens, then navigate down to where you see splash=silent and quiet. Remove both splash=silent and quiet, then append (without quotes) "plymouth.enable=0", proceed with boot, then report back your findings. Also you should share via http://susepaste.org (you can use the cmdline tool susepaste to do so) your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file so we can see any error messages or clues to what is or is not happening. Tell use some hardware specifics, such as output from 'lspci -nnk | grep -A3 VGA", "hwinfo --gfxcard" and/or "inxi -Gxx". Some error messages may be found by doing "dmesg | grep -i failure" and/or "journalctl -b -1 | grep -i failure". If any of these commands produce a command not found message, simply install and try again. e.g. 'sudo zypper install inxi'. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org