[opensuse] No vfat file system under 11.3
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly. If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get? If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat? -- The only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. --John Stuart Mill (On Liberty, 1859) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 12:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
I certainly don't remember explicitly installing anything to get vfat to work. It just worked the instant I plugged in a compatible device. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 02:40 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/12/2010 12:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
I certainly don't remember explicitly installing anything to get vfat to work. It just worked the instant I plugged in a compatible device.
Same here up until installing version 11.3! -- openSUSE 11.3 -- Kernel 2.6.34 -- GNU/Linux -- Tue 10/12/10 14:40pm up 1:08, 4 users, load average: 0.03, 0.29, 0.34 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Terry Eck <terry_eck@verizon.net> wrote:
On 10/12/2010 02:40 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/12/2010 12:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
I certainly don't remember explicitly installing anything to get vfat to work. It just worked the instant I plugged in a compatible device.
Same here up until installing version 11.3!
I don't know the details, but on my 11.3 machine running KDE when I connect a thumb drive I get a notification but it is NOT mounted automatically. What does happen is a new icon appears on the left hand side of my dolphin window. If I click on it, then the thumb drive gets mounted behind the scenes. If I don't want to use dolphin, I can also manually mount it from the command line, but I have use "dmesg | tail" to see what /dev/sdx it is. And the vfat module is not loaded on a fresh reboot. It is only loaded after I mount my first thumb drive, so lsmod is not actually telling you anything. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com> writes:
If I don't want to use dolphin, I can also manually mount it from the command line, but I have use "dmesg | tail" to see what /dev/sdx it is.
Install ivman. I don't use a DE and I have no problems automounting. Charles -- "The move was on to 'Free the Lizard'" -- Jim Hamerly and Tom Paquin (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
On 10/12/2010 02:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
lsmod | grep fat results in nothing. grep fat /proc/filesystems results in nothing. I think I need to know what rpm package to install to get vfat. -- openSUSE 11.3 -- Kernel 2.6.34 -- GNU/Linux -- Tue 10/12/10 14:35pm up 1:03, 4 users, load average: 0.38, 0.46, 0.39 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 12:40 PM, Terry Eck wrote:
On 10/12/2010 02:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
lsmod | grep fat results in nothing. grep fat /proc/filesystems results in nothing.
I think I need to know what rpm package to install to get vfat.
Why not just fire up yast and search? But something is pretty broken on your system because I'm pretty sure it installs by default. Was this an upgrade or a bare metal install? -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 02:51 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 10/12/2010 12:40 PM, Terry Eck wrote:
On 10/12/2010 02:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
lsmod | grep fat results in nothing. grep fat /proc/filesystems results in nothing.
I think I need to know what rpm package to install to get vfat.
Why not just fire up yast and search? But something is pretty broken on your system because I'm pretty sure it installs by default. Was this an upgrade or a bare metal install?
New install, I don't upgrade, too many problems in the past. I've searched on "vfat" and found nothing. Searching "filesystem" showed some entries, some installed, but nothing hinting to fat or vfat system. -- openSUSE 11.3 -- Kernel 2.6.34 -- GNU/Linux -- Tue 10/12/10 14:55pm up 1:23, 4 users, load average: 0.68, 0.41, 0.31 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 03:06 PM, Terry Eck wrote:
New install, I don't upgrade, too many problems in the past. I've searched on "vfat" and found nothing. Searching "filesystem" showed some entries, some installed, but nothing hinting to fat or vfat system.
I checked an different thumb drive and was able access it. Good. Went back and tried the original problems drive and was able to mount it. Go figure. Seems to be working for now. Sorry for the false problem post. -- openSUSE 11.3 -- Kernel 2.6.34 -- GNU/Linux -- Tue 10/12/10 15:10pm up 1:38, 4 users, load average: 0.16, 0.08, 0.15 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:40 PM:
On 10/12/2010 02:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
lsmod | grep fat results in nothing. grep fat /proc/filesystems results in nothing.
I think I need to know what rpm package to install to get vfat.
You don't. Its part of the kernel. Its a module. You should find it under /lib/modules/ for your specific kernel You load it as a module. Do read up on modules. All file systems are handled by kernel modules :-) I load this aurtmaticaly/always becuase I have it configured in /etc/sysconfig/kernel If you want to jsut load it the once, use modprobe vfat See man 8 modprobe and man 5 filessytems and /etc/filessytems -- "If you have only one layer of protection you are only as safe as the next bug-de-jour" - Brad M Powell, Snr Network Security Architect, Sun Microsystems -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Terry Eck <terry_eck@verizon.net> writes:
lsmod | grep fat results in nothing. grep fat /proc/filesystems results in nothing.
I think I need to know what rpm package to install to get vfat.
It is installed because it is part of the kernel package. If you are not using Dolphin or Nautilus- install ivman. If you are using one of the above, what happens when you do: ,---- | modprobe vfat `---- as root? Charles -- We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. (Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates)
On 10/12/2010 3:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
I'm not sure this test means anything. I'm looking at PCLOS, which can definitely read files in the XP directories on the disk, via Dolphin, but in /proc/filesystems there is no mention of vfat or fat32, but there is ext2, ext3, and ext4. There is also a mention of usbfs, whatever that may be, altho it says nodev next to it. I don't see ntfs either. lsmod | grep fat yields nothing at all. (PCLOS is a distro using KDE 4.4.5, if it makes any difference.) I just plugged in a vfat usb stick, with a couple of Windows files on it, and the machine read the file names, again in Dolphin. (There are no text files on that stick.) --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 1:38 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/12/2010 3:29 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Terry Eck said the following on 10/12/2010 03:12 PM:
What do I have to install to read a vfat usb device. I had no problems under 11.1 but the newly installed 11.3 says it is not able to recognize the file system
I presume that the USB device is loading correctly.
If you run lsmod | grep fat what do you get?
If you look in /proc/filesystems is there mention of vfat?
I'm not sure this test means anything. I'm looking at PCLOS, which can definitely read files in the XP directories on the disk, via Dolphin, but in /proc/filesystems there is no mention of vfat or fat32, but there is ext2, ext3, and ext4. There is also a mention of usbfs, whatever that may be, altho it says nodev next to it. I don't see ntfs either. lsmod | grep fat yields nothing at all. (PCLOS is a distro using KDE 4.4.5, if it makes any difference.) I just plugged in a vfat usb stick, with a couple of Windows files on it, and the machine read the file names, again in Dolphin. (There are no text files on that stick.)
--doug
Unless you take steps to edit your fstab the normal way of mounting USB devices is via the user-space stuff built into the notifier. If you have a vfat hard disk that you frequently want to mount, put it in fstab with a proper entry ( auto or vfat for the type) and you can either mount it on demand (if user has rights) or automatically. But for USB devices, just let the system do it upon insertion. (Its taken 10 years to get it to be this easy, so don't try to out-think it.) -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 04:38 PM, John Andersen wrote:
But for USB devices, just let the system do it upon insertion. (Its taken 10 years to get it to be this easy, so don't try to out-think it.)
amen
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On Tuesday 12 October 2010 23:38:36 John Andersen wrote:
Unless you take steps to edit your fstab the normal way of mounting USB devices is via the user-space stuff built into the notifier.
If you have a vfat hard disk that you frequently want to mount, put it in fstab with a proper entry ( auto or vfat for the type) and you can either mount it on demand (if user has rights) or automatically.
But for USB devices, just let the system do it upon insertion. (Its taken 10 years to get it to be this easy, so don't try to out-think it.)
To which I would add, on a single user desktop system, it's generally a good idea to set "Automatically mount removable media when attached", and "Mount removable media at login" in the "Removable Devices" System Settings page. Reasons not to automount would be if you have an optical disk that spins up noisily or if you regularly do things to unmounted volumes, like copying live cd images onto USB disks. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 10:47:10 Will Stephenson wrote:
To which I would add, on a single user desktop system, it's generally a good idea to set "Automatically mount removable media when attached", and "Mount removable media at login" in the "Removable Devices" System Settings page.
FYI In KDE 4.4 this page was still called 'Autostart' in the Advanced tab. -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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