[opensuse] New Firefox slow?
Firefox v 80.0.1 installed yesterday and it seems to be slow loading pages. This does not happen with other browsers. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm running Leap 15.2 & KDE. tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/09/2020 21.38, James Knott wrote:
Firefox v 80.0.1 installed yesterday and it seems to be slow loading pages. This does not happen with other browsers. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm running Leap 15.2 & KDE.
No idea, but check what DNS it is using. External or internal. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/5/20 3:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 05/09/2020 21.38, James Knott wrote:
Firefox v 80.0.1 installed yesterday and it seems to be slow loading pages. This does not happen with other browsers. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm running Leap 15.2 & KDE.
No idea, but check what DNS it is using. External or internal.
It's not the DNS, as it affects only Firefox, not Seamonkey or Chromium. Also, my DNS hasn't changed in over 4 years. I'm running my own resolver in pfsense. It also started with this latest version. In fact that was the first thing I noticed about it this morning. It was so slow, I checked the other browsers to see how they were doing. It was Firefox only. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/09/2020 22:01, James Knott wrote:
On 9/5/20 3:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 05/09/2020 21.38, James Knott wrote:
Firefox v 80.0.1 installed yesterday and it seems to be slow loading pages. This does not happen with other browsers. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm running Leap 15.2 & KDE.
No idea, but check what DNS it is using. External or internal.
It's not the DNS, as it affects only Firefox, not Seamonkey or Chromium. Also, my DNS hasn't changed in over 4 years. I'm running my own resolver in pfsense. It also started with this latest version. In fact that was the first thing I noticed about it this morning. It was so slow, I checked the other browsers to see how they were doing. It was Firefox only.
Half-educated hunch: which FF version brought in the GPU acceleration - was it 80? Could it be that you've got that enabled on hardware with old, under-powered or simply incompatible graphics? gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/5/20 4:05 PM, gumb wrote:
Half-educated hunch: which FF version brought in the GPU acceleration - was it 80? Could it be that you've got that enabled on hardware with old, under-powered or simply incompatible graphics?
I would have no idea about that. I have a Xeon E3-1200 graphics controller & Intel I7-3770 CPU. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/09/2020 22:12, James Knott wrote:
On 9/5/20 4:05 PM, gumb wrote:
Half-educated hunch: which FF version brought in the GPU acceleration - was it 80? Could it be that you've got that enabled on hardware with old, under-powered or simply incompatible graphics?
I would have no idea about that. I have a Xeon E3-1200 graphics controller & Intel I7-3770 CPU.
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/5/20 8:46 PM, gumb wrote:
I would have no idea about that. I have a Xeon E3-1200 graphics controller & Intel I7-3770 CPU.
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
At first glance that seems to have done it. tnx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/5/20 8:46 PM, gumb wrote:
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
I wonder why that isn't enabled by default. Are there many systems that don't use a graphics accelerator? What happens if it's selected and there is no accelerator? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/09/2020 16:03, James Knott wrote:
On 9/5/20 8:46 PM, gumb wrote:
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
I wonder why that isn't enabled by default. Are there many systems that don't use a graphics accelerator? What happens if it's selected and there is no accelerator?
I can't say as I understand it. Firefox has already had an option 'Use hardware acceleration when available' in its Preferences for dozens of releases, and I'd always thought that meant graphics acceleration. But apparently not. In any case, it seems the GPU acceleration on Linux is still not stable enough to be implemented by default. Other users report problems in the comments. I wonder if enabling it on a system with bog-standard integrated graphics offers any real improvement, or simply shifts the burden from one place (CPU) to another. gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/09/2020 16.03, James Knott wrote:
On 9/5/20 8:46 PM, gumb wrote:
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
I wonder why that isn't enabled by default.
because when it fails, it may be difficult to disable if you can not see the display -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-06 9:43 a.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 06/09/2020 16.03, James Knott wrote:
On 9/5/20 8:46 PM, gumb wrote:
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
I wonder why that isn't enabled by default.
because when it fails, it may be difficult to disable if you can not see the display
One could always resort to editing .mozilla/firefox/(user)/prefs.js -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/09/2020 20.02, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2020-09-06 9:43 a.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 06/09/2020 16.03, James Knott wrote:
On 9/5/20 8:46 PM, gumb wrote:
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
I wonder why that isn't enabled by default.
because when it fails, it may be difficult to disable if you can not see the display
One could always resort to editing .mozilla/firefox/(user)/prefs.js
Sure, and you will have a very pissed user if you do enable it by default, fails, and you tell the user to recover doing that. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-06 12:11 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 06/09/2020 20.02, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2020-09-06 9:43 a.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 06/09/2020 16.03, James Knott wrote:
On 9/5/20 8:46 PM, gumb wrote:
Here's info on the 'optional' GPU acceleration that came with version 80: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
I wonder why that isn't enabled by default.
because when it fails, it may be difficult to disable if you can not see the display
One could always resort to editing .mozilla/firefox/(user)/prefs.js
Sure, and you will have a very pissed user if you do enable it by default, fails, and you tell the user to recover doing that.
No such entry in any of the Firefox defaults; you'd have to edit one of the *.js files in /usr/lib64/firefox to write in the explicit variable setting, but I don't know why anyone would want to do that in the first place. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Darryl Gregorash composed on 2020-09-06 12:34 (UTC-0600): ...
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
One could always resort to editing .mozilla/firefox/(user)/prefs.js
Sure, and you will have a very pissed user if you do enable it by default, fails, and you tell the user to recover doing that.
No such entry in any of the Firefox defaults; you'd have to edit one of the *.js files in /usr/lib64/firefox to write in the explicit variable setting, but I don't know why anyone would want to do that in the first place.
Some?/most?/all? default settings are not written to the user's prefs.js, which is partly?/mainly?/wholly? there to maintain the deviations. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-09-06 1:44 p.m., Felix Miata wrote:
Darryl Gregorash composed on 2020-09-06 12:34 (UTC-0600): ...
> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/firefox-80-release-linux-gpu-acceleratio...
One could always resort to editing .mozilla/firefox/(user)/prefs.js
Sure, and you will have a very pissed user if you do enable it by default, fails, and you tell the user to recover doing that.
No such entry in any of the Firefox defaults; you'd have to edit one of the *.js files in /usr/lib64/firefox to write in the explicit variable setting, but I don't know why anyone would want to do that in the first place.
Some?/most?/all? default settings are not written to the user's prefs.js, which is partly?/mainly?/wholly? there to maintain the deviations.
Settings are written into user prefs.js when they are changed -- I changed the setting we are talking about, and indeed, it is now in my prefs.js whereas the variable is nowhere to be found in any other .js file on my system. And now I just changed back to the default setting, and of course, the variable is no longer in my prefs.js. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/6/20 2:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Sure, and you will have a very pissed user if you do enable it by default, fails, and you tell the user to recover doing that.
Just make sure to tell them it's their fault. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 16:01:46 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
On 9/5/20 3:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 05/09/2020 21.38, James Knott wrote:
Firefox v 80.0.1 installed yesterday and it seems to be slow loading pages. This does not happen with other browsers. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm running Leap 15.2 & KDE.
No idea, but check what DNS it is using. External or internal.
It's not the DNS, as it affects only Firefox, not Seamonkey or Chromium.
That's exactly Carlos' point. FF uses its own DNS mechanism, not your system's - unless you've changed it.
Also, my DNS hasn't changed in over 4 years. I'm running my own resolver in pfsense. It also started with this latest version. In fact that was the first thing I noticed about it this morning. It was so slow, I checked the other browsers to see how they were doing. It was Firefox only.
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On 9/5/20 4:18 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
It's not the DNS, as it affects only Firefox, not Seamonkey or Chromium. That's exactly Carlos' point. FF uses its own DNS mechanism, not your system's - unless you've changed it.
Has it changed since the previous version? I use Firefox much more than the other browsers and it sure wasn't this slow yesterday. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 16:20:38 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
On 9/5/20 4:18 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
It's not the DNS, as it affects only Firefox, not Seamonkey or Chromium. That's exactly Carlos' point. FF uses its own DNS mechanism, not your system's - unless you've changed it.
Has it changed since the previous version? I use Firefox much more than the other browsers and it sure wasn't this slow yesterday.
I have no idea. But the point is you have changed version, so what it is using may have changed, so it is relevant to check what is actually happening. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/09/2020 22.30, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 16:20:38 -0400 James Knott <> wrote:
On 9/5/20 4:18 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
It's not the DNS, as it affects only Firefox, not Seamonkey or Chromium. That's exactly Carlos' point. FF uses its own DNS mechanism, not your system's - unless you've changed it.
Has it changed since the previous version? I use Firefox much more than the other browsers and it sure wasn't this slow yesterday.
I have no idea. But the point is you have changed version, so what it is using may have changed, so it is relevant to check what is actually happening.
Yep. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/5/20 2:38 PM, James Knott wrote:
Firefox v 80.0.1 installed yesterday and it seems to be slow loading pages. This does not happen with other browsers. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm running Leap 15.2 & KDE.
Is this from update or the mozilla repo? 15.2 should stay on 78esr for the life of the release, I didn't know we were back to jumping versions mid-release again? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/5/20 4:48 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Is this from update or the mozilla repo? 15.2 should stay on 78esr for the life of the release, I didn't know we were back to jumping versions mid-release again?
I believe it's from Mozilla. I managed to pick up a newer FF version after adding a repo for Seamonkey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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