RE: [SLE] Re: YaST2 needs to be able to re-size NTFS Partitions
John Pettigrew <john@xl-cambridge.com> wrote:
In a previous message, GarUlbricht7@netscape.net wrote:
more than once on my 8.0 system I had to use the CD when my Lilo floppy died on me for no appararent reason.
This isn't likely to be SuSE's (or LiLo's) fault. Floppies aren't the most reliable medium in the world. Is there a reason you don't put lilo/grub on the HD itself?
When I did my initial install of 8.0 i chosee Lilo on a floppy because SuSE had suggested that in their Manual (I installed 8.0 person first, then 8.0 Professional about 6 months later.) The "grub" loader which will load Win2K, 8.0 and 8.1 for me, is on my hard drive. The problem I was referrring to was I never was able to get using KDE control center and Yast to make two floppies which both would reliably boot into 8.0 or Win2K, my choice. I could of course create a new floppy using the CD and "Lilo" on the command line, and often did.
I agree about resizing ntfs partitions, though. The repartitioning of fat and fat32 partitions that YaST does is excellently integrated and painless. It would be fantastic if it could do the same with ntfs.
John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games
---<test snipped>---- John -- I realize that part of the problem with NTFS partitions is due to M$ wanting to keep an economic advantage -- enough said in that regard that is why I said SuSE needs to spend the big bucks. As CD burners become even more common backing up Data before installing a new version of SuSE will become easier. And more robust. We still use the old "ghost" technique and backup to another hard drive, and cross our fingers a lot. (Others use zip drives, or tape, and those who don't ... well that's another story. Speaking of which does any one know of "open source" product which is comparable to the old Norton/symantec's Ghost." I imagine some perl programer has one... A perl script which copies a HD to another should be a piece of cake, it is just 1 and 0's, right ;) Gar __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Speaking of which does any one know of "open source" product which is comparable to the old Norton/symantec's Ghost."
There's an app called Ghost For Unix: http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ It does it's job nicely enough. Have Fun, Jim.
The 03.09.10 at 05:55, GarUlbricht7@netscape.net wrote:
The "grub" loader which will load Win2K, 8.0 and 8.1 for me, is on my hard drive. The problem I was referrring to was I never was able to get using KDE control center and Yast to make two floppies which both would reliably boot into 8.0 or Win2K, my choice.
There is an issue there with grub I hadn't noticed with lilo previously. Tell yast to create a grub boot floppy for a triple boot (and some double boot) machine (XP/windoze/linux), with the idea of leaving the "original" intact - case in point: demonstrating Linux to a reluctant friend (linux newbie). The floppy will, most probably, be able to happily boot both windows and Linux. Now remove the floppy: Windows will not boot, just after you are back at your home, and your friend phones for help in the middle of the night. What happened? That grub did changes to the MBR on the HD. The culprit is the "makeactive" option for grub: it makes one or other partition "active" when you tell grub to boot it. Chances are that the "main" partition is not "active" when trying to boot, and windows XP will not boot on its own. My conclusion: grub boot floppy isn't just a "standalone boot" floppy, doesn't leave the HD boot sequence fully intact.
I agree about resizing ntfs partitions, though. The repartitioning of fat and fat32 partitions that YaST does is excellently integrated and painless. It would be fantastic if it could do the same with ntfs.
I understand ntfs is very proprietary and even patented, perhaps. Ie, you need commercial software to resize it. Although somebody commented here there was a new open software capable of doing it :-? -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
If you keep your working drive small such as 20-40k you can use dd to copy it all to a monster drive. There is also BRU which a friend will help me setup. I am told it creates an install set of CDRW. Likely DVDR will soon be supported. CWSIV On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 05:55:23 -0400 GarUlbricht7@netscape.net writes:
John Pettigrew <john@xl-cambridge.com> wrote:
In a previous message, GarUlbricht7@netscape.net wrote:
more than once on my 8.0 system I had to use the CD when my Lilo floppy died on me for no appararent reason.
This isn't likely to be SuSE's (or LiLo's) fault. Floppies aren't the most reliable medium in the world. Is there a reason you don't put lilo/grub on the HD itself?
When I did my initial install of 8.0 i chosee Lilo on a floppy because SuSE had suggested that in their Manual (I installed 8.0 person first, then 8.0 Professional about 6 months later.)
The "grub" loader which will load Win2K, 8.0 and 8.1 for me, is on my hard drive. The problem I was referrring to was I never was able to get using KDE control center and Yast to make two floppies which both would reliably boot into 8.0 or Win2K, my choice.
I could of course create a new floppy using the CD and "Lilo" on the command line, and often did.
I agree about resizing ntfs partitions, though. The repartitioning of fat and fat32 partitions that YaST does is excellently integrated and painless. It would be fantastic if it could do the same with
ntfs.
John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games
---<test snipped>----
John -- I realize that part of the problem with NTFS partitions is due to M$ wanting to keep an economic advantage -- enough said in that regard that is why I said SuSE needs to spend the big bucks.
As CD burners become even more common backing up Data before installing a new version of SuSE will become easier. And more robust. We still use the old "ghost" technique and backup to another hard drive, and cross our fingers a lot. (Others use zip drives, or tape, and those who don't ... well that's another story.
Speaking of which does any one know of "open source" product which is comparable to the old Norton/symantec's Ghost."
I imagine some perl programer has one... A perl script which copies a HD to another should be a piece of cake, it is just 1 and 0's, right ;)
Gar
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