[opensuse] Downgrade to Vista
Okay, this blows. (Sorry for the California term, but it is all I can think of.) After several hours of installing 10.3 on my laptop followed by terrible frustration and then several hours of installing 10.2 on my laptop, I've decided I need to downgrade to Vista. Unfortunately, the laptop must be encrypted. There is no other option, since it is a business laptop.
From what I can tell - I had a perfectly working laptop on Thursday. Yesterday I took it upon myself to upgrade to 10.3 and encrypt the home partition. Doing so caused numerous issues, mostly with locking up the screen and/or system randomly.
I decided today to do a fresh install of 10.2 - which was working fine - on the system with an encrypted home partition. Same issues. System will lock up unexpectedly after either a few minutes or after an hour. I can only guess that the encryption is causing the issue. Unless anyone has further suggestions, it appears I need to downgrade to Vista (which came with the laptop) and bite the bullet. Ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.1.00.0712301231061.16549@nimrodel.valinor> The Saturday 2007-12-29 at 23:58 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
From what I can tell - I had a perfectly working laptop on Thursday. Yesterday I took it upon myself to upgrade to 10.3 and encrypt the home partition. Doing so caused numerous issues, mostly with locking up the screen and/or system randomly.
I decided today to do a fresh install of 10.2 - which was working fine - on the system with an encrypted home partition.
Same issues. System will lock up unexpectedly after either a few minutes or after an hour.
I can only guess that the encryption is causing the issue.
Have a look at this, whether looks familiar: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=345039 But I guess your problem is different. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHd4HotTMYHG2NR9URAviLAJ0SwuIIwlY+zArUucH2XpWyXHY2FQCgkJ8O 2F7mFI2DESFtt0Ru3CnnwZs= =9IG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 23:58 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
Okay, this blows. (Sorry for the California term, but it is all I can think of.)
After several hours of installing 10.3 on my laptop followed by terrible frustration and then several hours of installing 10.2 on my laptop, I've decided I need to downgrade to Vista.
Unfortunately, the laptop must be encrypted. There is no other option, since it is a business laptop.
From what I can tell - I had a perfectly working laptop on Thursday. Yesterday I took it upon myself to upgrade to 10.3 and encrypt the home partition. Doing so caused numerous issues, mostly with locking up the screen and/or system randomly.
I decided today to do a fresh install of 10.2 - which was working fine - on the system with an encrypted home partition.
Same issues. System will lock up unexpectedly after either a few minutes or after an hour.
I can only guess that the encryption is causing the issue.
Unless anyone has further suggestions, it appears I need to downgrade to Vista (which came with the laptop) and bite the bullet.
Ideas?
Having followed your discussion on encrypting partitions, I was actually wondering if you might not just need to fake a partition in a file, encrypt the fake partition, and only mount that when needed? I already have 10.3 on my laptop, and running smooth enough, so I was pondering doing this for the stuff I need kept safe. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, December 30, 2007 6:50 am, Mike McMullin wrote:
Unless anyone has further suggestions, it appears I need to downgrade to Vista (which came with the laptop) and bite the bullet.
Ideas?
Having followed your discussion on encrypting partitions, I was actually wondering if you might not just need to fake a partition in a file, encrypt the fake partition, and only mount that when needed? I already have 10.3 on my laptop, and running smooth enough, so I was pondering doing this for the stuff I need kept safe.
Well, ideas happen at the weirdest moments. I woke up this morning by having my seven-year-old jump onto my bed and almost crushing me in the process. For some reason, the first thought I had, while lying there in pain was - hey: I can install XP on a smallish partition and have them encrypt that. Then I install SUSE 10.3 on the rest of the machine and it will be "compliant". I'm gonna try that. We'll see how it goes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Sun, December 30, 2007 6:50 am, Mike McMullin wrote:
Unless anyone has further suggestions, it appears I need to downgrade to Vista (which came with the laptop) and bite the bullet.
Ideas?
Having followed your discussion on encrypting partitions, I was actually wondering if you might not just need to fake a partition in a file, encrypt the fake partition, and only mount that when needed? I already have 10.3 on my laptop, and running smooth enough, so I was pondering doing this for the stuff I need kept safe.
Well, ideas happen at the weirdest moments.
I woke up this morning by having my seven-year-old jump onto my bed and almost crushing me in the process.
For some reason, the first thought I had, while lying there in pain was - hey: I can install XP on a smallish partition and have them encrypt that. Then I install SUSE 10.3 on the rest of the machine and it will be "compliant".
I'm gonna try that. We'll see how it goes.
How much has to be encrypted? You should be able to encrypt /home and perhaps use a swap file, and configure the system to delete the swap file on shut down and then recreate it on boot. You can also configure the system to clear /tmp on boot. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
For some reason, the first thought I had, while lying there in pain was - hey: I can install XP on a smallish partition and have them encrypt that. Then I install SUSE 10.3 on the rest of the machine and it will be "compliant".
Another idea: I have a very satisfactory installation of XP-Pro running in a VirtualBox VM. Actually, I don't need it for anything, and I don't use it for anything, but I had an extra XP-Pro license here, and wanted to give it a try. So far, VirtualBox seems just as easy to use as VMware or VirtualPC, and may even be more capable than either of those. Run full-screen, it's hart to tell a VM session from an ordinary session, but to change from XP to Linux you won't need to reboot. And if you ever want to move the XP virtual machine (and its virtual hard drive) to a new or different laptop, that's trivial. Much more so that reinstalling XP, applying all the available updates, then reinstalling all the Windows applications you use and copying their working data. You essentially just copy a couple of files (one large, one small), and you're ready to launch it there. Pretty easy to do backups, too, since all you need to do is copy the virtual hard drive to a safe place now and then. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 December 2007 09:42:22 am Jerry Houston wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
For some reason, the first thought I had, while lying there in pain was - hey: I can install XP on a smallish partition and have them encrypt that. Then I install SUSE 10.3 on the rest of the machine and it will be "compliant".
Another idea: I have a very satisfactory installation of XP-Pro running in a VirtualBox VM. Actually, I don't need it for anything, and I don't use it for anything, but I had an extra XP-Pro license here, and wanted to give it a try. So far, VirtualBox seems just as easy to use as VMware or VirtualPC, and may even be more capable than either of those.
Well, I think this solution will work. I do have a VMWare of XP on my external drive with Office 2003 and the all-important Visio (can't do without this!!) already loaded. I have now got XP loaded in SDA1 on a 5G partition. The rest of the drive is openSUSE 10.3 running just fine (no lockups in the past few hours) on the rest of the hard drive. The admin guys can encrypt XP and leave SUSE alone as far as i care. I'm going to send a separate email because I still can't get 3d working on my video card (Nvidia Quadro FX 1500M) under 10.3 for some reason. Oh, and the wireless is working fine now. Don't know why it didn't before. I'm thinking that sunspots or global warming had something to do with it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 December 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
Okay, this blows. (Sorry for the California term, but it is all I can think of.)
After several hours of installing 10.3 on my laptop followed by terrible frustration and then several hours of installing 10.2 on my laptop, I've decided I need to downgrade to Vista.
Unfortunately, the laptop must be encrypted. There is no other option, since it is a business laptop.
From what I can tell - I had a perfectly working laptop on Thursday. Yesterday I took it upon myself to upgrade to 10.3 and encrypt the home partition. Doing so caused numerous issues, mostly with locking up the screen and/or system randomly.
I decided today to do a fresh install of 10.2 - which was working fine - on the system with an encrypted home partition.
Same issues. System will lock up unexpectedly after either a few minutes or after an hour.
I can only guess that the encryption is causing the issue.
I always have /home and /tmp and even swap encrypted on all notebooks and desktops, at least since 10.0, and now all with 10.3. I'm using LUKS though, and an adaption of SuSE's old boot.crypt script. Works without any encryption related problem whatsoever. I think 10.3 is now also using DM-Crypt / cryptsetup, but I haven't tried it, it was far too easy to continue to use the same setup. If it is so, then SuSE's setup script is surely better than mine, however if under the hood is LUKS / cryptsetup / dm-crypt then the problems you see are IMHO not caused by the encryption. I even have several USB disks with LUKS encrypted partitions, and all is just working, reliably working, on each of the currently 3 systems I plug them in regularly. You might have a different issue in that laptop you are using. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (6)
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Carlos E. R.
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James Knott
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Jerry Houston
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Kai Ponte
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Matt T.
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Mike McMullin