Don't like SUSE 10 RC1 GRUB and desktop background
Some feedback and two requests: I hope the backgrounds that have been used for GRUB and the desktop on SUSE 10 RC1 won't be the same in the final release. The GRUB background is too gaudy and the chameleon desktop, while a tribute (!) to SUSE's mascot, is not very easy on the eyes. I request the developers to use a neutral background for both GRUB and the desktop, like they gave us with SUSE 9.3. Also, can anyone please send me the green background file that installed with SUSE 9.3's GRUB? I wiped my HDD and have installed SUSE 10 now, and want to use the old background for GRUB. Thanks.
On Monday 03 October 2005 12:02 pm, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Some feedback and two requests:
I hope the backgrounds that have been used for GRUB and the desktop on SUSE 10 RC1 won't be the same in the final release. The GRUB background is too gaudy and the chameleon desktop, while a tribute (!) to SUSE's mascot, is not very easy on the eyes.
I request the developers to use a neutral background for both GRUB and the desktop, like they gave us with SUSE 9.3.
Is the background easily tweakable? Then I can use pictures of my choice: corporate, pets, babies etc. Or provide a big library and tweak it from Yast or Control Center. Also make it consistent. Then we can make the KDE logn, KDE background and GRUP background images consistent, or not. -- Simon Dales, Software Consultant "The impossible is easy"
On Monday, 3 October 2005 12:14, Simon Dales wrote:
Is the background easily tweakable? Then I can use pictures of my choice: corporate, pets, babies etc. Or provide a big library and tweak it from Yast or Control Center.
Also make it consistent. Then we can make the KDE logn, KDE background and GRUP background images consistent, or not.
Desktop Background is any jpeg you like I haven't looked into SuSe's Grub implementation, but the background should be no more than a tar-gzipped xpm file, although limitation apply (IIRC 640x480 and 4 colors). Thierry -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa
On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 01:20:01PM +0100, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Monday, 3 October 2005 12:14, Simon Dales wrote:
Is the background easily tweakable? Then I can use pictures of my choice: corporate, pets, babies etc. Or provide a big library and tweak it from Yast or Control Center.
Also make it consistent. Then we can make the KDE logn, KDE background and GRUP background images consistent, or not.
And the Gnome ones as well. And naturlay the boot screens.
Desktop Background is any jpeg you like
I haven't looked into SuSe's Grub implementation, but the background should be no more than a tar-gzipped xpm file, although limitation apply (IIRC 640x480 and 4 colors).
It is not just a picture, I think, it also must include information about the, uh, information on the screen. The place where it is placed and also some things that move. Should be able to put a game in there, as it listens to keypresses (at least the X-mas one did. When you entered a key, the penguins changed directions) houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Simon Dales
On Monday 03 October 2005 12:02 pm, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Some feedback and two requests:
I hope the backgrounds that have been used for GRUB and the desktop on SUSE 10 RC1 won't be the same in the final release. The GRUB background is too gaudy and the chameleon desktop, while a tribute (!) to SUSE's mascot, is not very easy on the eyes.
I request the developers to use a neutral background for both GRUB and the desktop, like they gave us with SUSE 9.3.
Is the background easily tweakable? Then I can use pictures of my choice: corporate, pets, babies etc. Or provide a big library and tweak it from Yast or Control Center.
Yes, it is - and we supply the 9.3 background as well.
Also make it consistent. Then we can make the KDE logn, KDE background and GRUP background images consistent, or not.
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 04:32:36PM +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Some feedback and two requests:
I hope the backgrounds that have been used for GRUB and the desktop on SUSE 10 RC1 won't be the same in the final release. The GRUB background is too gaudy and the chameleon desktop, while a tribute (!) to SUSE's mascot, is not very easy on the eyes.
The GRUB background was a tribute to the OSS developers. At least directly. RC1 is also called Nurnberg and was named after the city of a SUSE OSS developer. Each Beta version had a different GRUB background and different name. I am sure the latest GRUB will look different. What would be nice is to have several look and feel for GRUB. I liked the X-mas thing on the 1st of this month. Would be nice to be able to have more then one to choose from. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
On Monday 03 October 2005 13:02, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Some feedback and two requests:
I hope the backgrounds that have been used for GRUB and the desktop on SUSE 10 RC1 won't be the same in the final release. The GRUB background is too gaudy and the chameleon desktop, while a tribute (!) to SUSE's mascot, is not very easy on the eyes.
Aren't you the one that wanted the boot screen pic of Bangelore or some such place? I seem to remember that. And the Chameleon has been there for all the releases. Just now you want to change it? Grab any pic you want and use it. It's not that hard.
I request the developers to use a neutral background for both GRUB and the desktop, like they gave us with SUSE 9.3.
Naa. Neutral is no fun. All the different pics they've used for the boot screen have been fun to see. I've not been to Provo, but I have been to Prague. -- Powered by SuSE 9.3 Kernel 2.6.11 KDE 3.4.0 Kmail 1.8 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 3:59pm up 8 days 23:18, 4 users, load average: 1.03, 1.14, 1.17
Monday 03 Oct 2005 19:32 samaye mike alekhiit:
Aren't you the one that wanted the boot screen pic of Bangelore or some such place? I seem to remember that.
Yep, but only 'cause I'm an Indian and I felt proud I wanted to save it for archival. Not for GRUB background.
And the Chameleon has been there for all the releases. Just now you want to change it? Grab any pic you want and use it. It's not that hard.
I only downloaded RC1. No betas. The default in 9.3 (which I installed before 10 RC1) was not the chameleon. I know that it's not hard. But to not risk upsetting anyone, it is better to have a neutral background.
Naa. Neutral is no fun. All the different pics they've used for the boot screen have been fun to see. I've not been to Provo, but I have been to Prague.
They're fun, okay, but the pink and gray in the RC1 background somehow clash. I also agree that they are a tribute to the Novell developers around the world and hence betas and RC-s certainly can/should have such things. I am just speaking of the final version.
On Monday 03 October 2005 19:42, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Monday 03 Oct 2005 19:32 samaye mike alekhiit:
Aren't you the one that wanted the boot screen pic of Bangelore or some such place? I seem to remember that.
Yep, but only 'cause I'm an Indian and I felt proud I wanted to save it for archival. Not for GRUB background.
I thought so.. ;-) And I doubt it will be that way for the final version. But that's only a guess.
And the Chameleon has been there for all the releases. Just now you want to change it? Grab any pic you want and use it. It's not that hard.
I only downloaded RC1. No betas. The default in 9.3 (which I installed before 10 RC1) was not the chameleon. I know that it's not hard. But to not risk upsetting anyone, it is better to have a neutral background.
You know, I don't even remember what the default screen looked like. It lasted just long enough for me to configure another picture into it. Right now, I cycling some pix of my grandkids. ;-)
They're fun, okay, but the pink and gray in the RC1 background somehow clash. I also agree that they are a tribute to the Novell developers around the world and hence betas and RC-s certainly can/should have such things. I am just speaking of the final version.
As I said, I doubt they will be there as the default. Personally, I dislike neutral themes. I usually spend the first couple of hours changing things to suit me. I really don't care for what the defaults are. But that's just me. I'm not offended by whatever they put there. It's so customizable, that I just play until I get it the way I like it. Then a couple of weeks later, I switch backgrounds. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.3 Kernel 2.6.11 KDE 3.4.0 Kmail 1.8 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 8:09pm up 9 days 3:27, 4 users, load average: 1.05, 1.41, 1.39
On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 08:14:07PM +0200, mike wrote:
You know, I don't even remember what the default screen looked like. It lasted just long enough for me to configure another picture into it. Right now, I cycling some pix of my grandkids. ;-)
I also look at my own backgrounds. I have some 23.000+ pictures and twi screens. I used to have a randomizer, but that one did not really work well, because it was not really random. The script I use on my WindowMaker: #!/bin/bash # make file with : # find .|grep jpg > wallpapers.txt cd /home/houghi/wallpaper for COUNT in `seq 2` do let COUNT=COUNT-1 LINES=$((`wc -l < wallpapers.txt`)) if [ $LINES -eq "0" ] then find .|grep jpg > wallpapers.txt LINES=$((`wc -l < wallpapers.txt`)) fi FILE=`head -$((($RANDOM * 32678 +$RANDOM) % $LINES + 1)) wallpapers.txt|tail -1` grep $FILE -v wallpapers.txt > wallpapers.txt.bak mv wallpapers.txt.bak wallpapers.txt DISPLAY=:0.${COUNT} /usr/X11R6/bin/wmsetbg -a $FILE # echo $COUNT $FILE done All pics are in /home/houghi/wallpaper in subdirectories. All are in lowercase and have no spaces in them The script first makes a wallpapers.txt file with all the files in it. It then chooses a random line and does the wmsetbg for it. The DISPLAY in front of it tells me what display to put it, so if you have just one screen, loose the lines `for COUNT ...`, `do` and `done` and remove `DISPLAY=:0.${COUNT}`. If you have more then one desktop, you could change the `seq 2` to whatever you have of amount and make it `DISPLAY=:${COUNT}.0 ...` Next the script removes the line from the file, so it can be chosen the next time. Last but not least, put the script in crontab. Mine does a new screen every 2 minutes. You can calculate how long I must watch before I have seen all pics. :-) I must say I do now see pictures that I previously have not seen in the several months I had them and the other script was running. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Thanks mike and houghi! That was quite interesting! But can you just point me to some straightforward instructions as to how to change the GRUB wallpaper into whatever I want, and what the criteria for that wallpaper (dimensions, bit depth etc) is? I would search, but gotta run outside now... See ya. SS.
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 11:05:33AM +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Thanks mike and houghi! That was quite interesting! But can you just point me to some straightforward instructions as to how to change the GRUB wallpaper into whatever I want, and what the criteria for that wallpaper (dimensions, bit depth etc) is? I would search, but gotta run outside now...
http://www.bootsplash.org/ http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Splash_image_in_GRUB http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/142 and last but not least http://tinyurl.com/b5aos houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
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