[opensuse] denied post
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 openSUSE 11.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Are you always sending from the same computer or email app? If not, it could be one is configured for HTML. I ran into that situation a while ago. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 October 2008 02:42:58 pm James Knott wrote:
russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Are you always sending from the same computer or email app? If not, it could be one is configured for HTML. I ran into that situation a while ago. No I only have one machine with KDE3.5.9 it is my production system and all my mail is sent from it. This was working yesterday and it works to other mailing list without any problem I know of, including other SUSE groups like announce.
I use kmail thru Kontact. I looked at sent mail an the ones that were denied had no html code in the message and the header was alternate/multipart. Kmail is setting the header, I have not configured anything other than standard stuff. .
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James Knott wrote:
russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Are you always sending from the same computer or email app? If not, it could be one is configured for HTML. I ran into that situation a while ago.
Actually in looking at the message posted by Bob S. I think I did change the font in the message from default(Sans serif to Vendana) and I may have also changed the font size. Bob S. did you report this as a bug? If so please post bug #. Thanks. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 04 October 2008 11:05:54 am russbucket wrote:
James Knott wrote:
russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Are you always sending from the same computer or email app? If not, it could be one is configured for HTML. I ran into that situation a while ago.
Actually in looking at the message posted by Bob S. I think I did change the font in the message from default(Sans serif to Vendana) and I may have also changed the font size.
Bob S. did you report this as a bug? If so please post bug #.
No Russ, I didn't. I have posted bug reports in the past and nothing ever happened. Now I just shrug my shoulders if it is just an annoyance, and move on. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
NOTE: private mail to you does not work! Please repair/fix your mail system... ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Your message was not delivered because the destination computer refused to accept it (the error message is reproduced below). This type of error is usually due to a mis-configured account or mail delivery system on the destination computer; however, it could be caused by your message since some mail systems refuse messages with invalid header information, or if they are too large. Your message was rejected by mail.sanctum.com for the following reason: rejected: advertises spam site The following recipients did not receive this message: <911@sanctum.com> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// * Bob S <911@sanctum.com> [10-04-08 21:27]:
On Saturday 04 October 2008 11:05:54 am russbucket wrote:
Bob S. did you report this as a bug? If so please post bug #.
No Russ, I didn't. I have posted bug reports in the past and nothing ever happened. Now I just shrug my shoulders if it is just an annoyance, and move on.
This action or lack thereof helps *no-one*, expecially yourself. If you are not ready to help, please do not ask for help. (and you do frequently, as do many of us). AND, your failure to *notice* resolution of *your* bug reports does not mean that no action has been or will be taken, just that *you* did not *see* it. Step up and be part of the solution, sit back and be part of the problem. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 2008-10-03 at 14:36 -0700, russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjmlb4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V8KQCfXbqB1sb9eNuYBoB+3l4eZng4 /6YAmgMbUg8MI90WROTaGnOUykEEd0WN =HYLb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 October 2008 05:59:23 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday 2008-10-03 at 14:36 -0700, russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it.
I have found something that is strange and got some of my mails rejected for HTML I usae kmail exclusively. I am sight impaired, and on occaison, as my eyes get more tired, I use CTL + the mouse scroll wheel to enlarge the printing in the message window. If I reply to any message after that (with the fonts enlarged) the message will be rejected for HTML. Can't explain it, and just don't do that anymore, Shutting down kmail and restarting it restores the default font sizes. Can't say about Tbird or other mail programs. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 October 2008 04:02:39 pm Bob S wrote:
On Friday 03 October 2008 05:59:23 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday 2008-10-03 at 14:36 -0700, russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it.
I have found something that is strange and got some of my mails rejected for HTML I usae kmail exclusively.
I am sight impaired, and on occaison, as my eyes get more tired, I use CTL + the mouse scroll wheel to enlarge the printing in the message window. If I reply to any message after that (with the fonts enlarged) the message will be rejected for HTML. Can't explain it, and just don't do that anymore, Shutting down kmail and restarting it restores the default font sizes.
Can't say about Tbird or other mail programs.
Bob S
I don't do that but it probably should be reported as a bug in KDE or kmail. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 openSUSE 11.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 2008-10-03 at 19:02 -0400, Bob S wrote:
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it.
I have found something that is strange and got some of my mails rejected for HTML I usae kmail exclusively.
I am sight impaired, and on occaison, as my eyes get more tired, I use CTL + the mouse scroll wheel to enlarge the printing in the message window. If I reply to any message after that (with the fonts enlarged) the message will be rejected for HTML. Can't explain it, and just don't do that anymore, Shutting down kmail and restarting it restores the default font sizes.
Can't say about Tbird or other mail programs.
Wow! That's a bug, obviously. You should report it in Bugzilla. When you are composing an email, a font size change requires the use of html. Somehow it is doing that decision when viewing an email, too. And it is different the display font than the email font. Even when composing this should not happen. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjnTUsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UsVACgj6hQu0bKh+WXXaYqBH1xRxVG wIkAnjXTZfMiWzF5AXzGGmUvRDBGWek1 =98Qh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 04 October 2008 06:02:34 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday 2008-10-03 at 19:02 -0400, Bob S wrote:
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it.
I have found something that is strange and got some of my mails rejected for HTML I usae kmail exclusively.
I am sight impaired, and on occaison, as my eyes get more tired, I use CTL + the mouse scroll wheel to enlarge the printing in the message window. If I reply to any message after that (with the fonts enlarged) the message will be rejected for HTML. Can't explain it, and just don't do that anymore, Shutting down kmail and restarting it restores the default font sizes.
Can't say about Tbird or other mail programs.
Wow! That's a bug, obviously. You should report it in Bugzilla.
When you are composing an email, a font size change requires the use of html. Somehow it is doing that decision when viewing an email, too. And it is different the display font than the email font. Even when composing this should not happen.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
This is reply to message that has enlarged fonts, like Bob is doing. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 04 October 2008 10:42:50 am Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 04 October 2008 06:02:34 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday 2008-10-03 at 19:02 -0400, Bob S wrote:
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it.
I have found something that is strange and got some of my mails rejected for HTML I usae kmail exclusively.
I am sight impaired, and on occaison, as my eyes get more tired, I use CTL + the mouse scroll wheel to enlarge the printing in the message window. If I reply to any message after that (with the fonts enlarged) the message will be rejected for HTML. Can't explain it, and just don't do that anymore, Shutting down kmail and restarting it restores the default font sizes.
Can't say about Tbird or other mail programs.
Wow! That's a bug, obviously. You should report it in Bugzilla.
When you are composing an email, a font size change requires the use of html. Somehow it is doing that decision when viewing an email, too. And it is different the display font than the email font. Even when composing this should not happen.
This is reply to message that has enlarged fonts, like Bob is doing.
Previous was using fixed fonts to read a message. This is with variable with. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 October 2008 04:02:39 pm Bob S wrote:
On Friday 03 October 2008 05:59:23 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday 2008-10-03 at 14:36 -0700, russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it.
I have found something that is strange and got some of my mails rejected for HTML I usae kmail exclusively.
I am sight impaired, and on occaison, as my eyes get more tired, I use CTL + the mouse scroll wheel to enlarge the printing in the message window. If I reply to any message after that (with the fonts enlarged) the message will be rejected for HTML. Can't explain it, and just don't do that anymore, Shutting down kmail and restarting it restores the default font sizes.
Can't say about Tbird or other mail programs.
Bob S
entered as bug 432413 today. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 openSUSE 11.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 05 October 2008 01:34:50 pm russbucket wrote:
On Friday 03 October 2008 04:02:39 pm Bob S wrote:
On Friday 03 October 2008 05:59:23 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday 2008-10-03 at 14:36 -0700, russbucket wrote:
Why are my posts being denied. Something is attaching html but not me. Some posts go thru, some don't.
Send to yourself (BCC) on another account, to see what is that html and who added it. If your email has html the list server will reject it.
I have found something that is strange and got some of my mails rejected for HTML I usae kmail exclusively.
I am sight impaired, and on occaison, as my eyes get more tired, I use CTL + the mouse scroll wheel to enlarge the printing in the message window. If I reply to any message after that (with the fonts enlarged) the message will be rejected for HTML. Can't explain it, and just don't do that anymore, Shutting down kmail and restarting it restores the default font sizes.
Can't say about Tbird or other mail programs.
Bob S
entered as bug 432413 today.
OK, good. Old lazy will watch it. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 05 October 2008 11:31:48 am Bob S wrote:
On Sunday 05 October 2008 01:34:50 pm russbucket wrote: ... OK, good. Old lazy will watch it.
Bob S
Did anybody noticed my 2 posts trying to recreate the bug? I use exactly the same Kmail version 1.9.9 and mail landed in this thread as expected in text version. Bob, What I have to do to get buggy behavior? What enlargement? What fonts, fixed or variable? How long to hold Ctrl key? You can't expect developer to dive in the code without knowing where, and without knowing how to recreate the bug it is near to impossible to solve it. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 06 October 2008 01:18:18 am Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 05 October 2008 11:31:48 am Bob S wrote:
On Sunday 05 October 2008 01:34:50 pm russbucket wrote:
...
OK, good. Old lazy will watch it.
Bob S
Did anybody noticed my 2 posts trying to recreate the bug? I use exactly the same Kmail version 1.9.9 and mail landed in this thread as expected in text version.
Rajko. Yes, I did notice. Don't know what to tell you.
Bob,
What I have to do to get buggy behavior? What enlargement? What fonts, fixed or variable? How long to hold Ctrl key?
It has been many many months since this happened. Once I identified the problem I just didn't do that anymore. It was just a hold the CTL key and a short roll of the mouse until the fonts were larger. Don't remember the details or if it or if actually changed the font type except for the size. My normal Composer fonts are sans serif 14 pt. bold. I noticed only the result because it was rejected as HTML. I would have to try different variations and send them off to see which ones were actually rejected. I will send this message as normal and then resend it with a change as I described. Let's see what happens.
You can't expect developer to dive in the code without knowing where, and without knowing how to recreate the bug it is near to impossible to solve it.
Yeah. known and understood. Was just never important enough to me. You know, computer little "oddities".
-- Regards, Rajko
Bob S Now I have to calm down Patrick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 06 October 2008 01:18:18 am Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 05 October 2008 11:31:48 am Bob S wrote:
On Sunday 05 October 2008 01:34:50 pm russbucket wrote:
...
OK, good. Old lazy will watch it.
Bob S
Did anybody noticed my 2 posts trying to recreate the bug? I use exactly the same Kmail version 1.9.9 and mail landed in this thread as expected in text version.
Rajko. Yes, I did notice. Don't know what to tell you.
Bob,
What I have to do to get buggy behavior? What enlargement? What fonts, fixed or variable? How long to hold Ctrl key?
It has been many many months since this happened. Once I identified the problem I just didn't do that anymore. It was just a hold the CTL key and a short roll of the mouse until the fonts were larger. Don't remember the details or if it or if actually changed the font type except for the size. My normal Composer fonts are sans serif 14 pt. bold. I noticed only the result because it was rejected as HTML. I would have to try different variations and send them off to see which ones were actually rejected. I will send this message as normal and then resend it with a change as I described. Let's see what happens.
You can't expect developer to dive in the code without knowing where, and without knowing how to recreate the bug it is near to impossible to solve it.
Yeah. known and understood. Was just never important enough to me. You know, computer little "oddities".
-- Regards, Rajko
Bob S Now I have to calm down Patrick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 05 October 2008 11:31:48 am Bob S wrote:
On Sunday 05 October 2008 01:34:50 pm russbucket wrote: ... OK, good. Old lazy will watch it.
Bob S
Did anybody noticed my 2 posts trying to recreate the bug? I use exactly the same Kmail version 1.9.9 and mail landed in this thread as expected in text version.
Bob,
What I have to do to get buggy behavior? What enlargement? What fonts, fixed or variable? How long to hold Ctrl key?
You can't expect developer to dive in the code without knowing where, and without knowing how to recreate the bug it is near to impossible to solve it.
Noticed, but it does not do it everytime on my posts. Most of them get thru. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 06 October 2008 10:27:48 am russbucket wrote:
Rajko M. wrote: ... Noticed, but it does not do it everytime on my posts. Most of them get thru. --
OK, Russ and Bob. BTW, we can use opensuse-test@opensuse.org to send test messages. One of possibilities is that answering to specific type of email triggers use of html. When that happens just save bounced message. After few of them it should be clear is there anything else besides enlarging. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 06 October 2008 04:22:07 pm Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 06 October 2008 10:27:48 am russbucket wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
...
Noticed, but it does not do it everytime on my posts. Most of them get thru. --
OK, Russ and Bob.
BTW, we can use opensuse-test@opensuse.org to send test messages.
One of possibilities is that answering to specific type of email triggers use of html. When that happens just save bounced message. After few of them it should be clear is there anything else besides enlarging.
-- Regards, Rajko
I'll try some messages in the morning. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 openSUSE 11.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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