[opensuse] Create live 15.1 USB
I'd like to create a live 15.1 on a USB stick. Are there any official procedures? Please note, I want to create a usable system, not an install system. I already have one of those. A search turns up some procedures for Windows, but not Linux. I'd rather use Linux. tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
I'd like to create a live 15.1 on a USB stick. Are there any official procedures? Please note, I want to create a usable system, not an install system. I already have one of those. A search turns up some procedures for Windows, but not Linux. I'd rather use Linux.
Don't the usual places provide what you need: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 01:42 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
I'd like to create a live 15.1 on a USB stick. Are there any official procedures? Please note, I want to create a usable system, not an install system. I already have one of those. A search turns up some procedures for Windows, but not Linux. I'd rather use Linux. Don't the usual places provide what you need:
Unless I'm mistaken, that provides an install USB stick, used to install openSUSE on a computer. I want to create a USB stick that I can use to run it. I seem to recall such a thing for CDs years ago and even used it to test computers I was considering buying. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 01:42 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
I'd like to create a live 15.1 on a USB stick. Are there any official procedures? Please note, I want to create a usable system, not an install system. I already have one of those. A search turns up some procedures for Windows, but not Linux. I'd rather use Linux. Don't the usual places provide what you need:
Unless I'm mistaken, that provides an install USB stick, used to install openSUSE on a computer. I want to create a USB stick that I can use to run it.
The title certainly suggests otherwise. "Live" ? The article disagrees too - it is about creating a Live stick. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 29/11/2019 20.17, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 01:42 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
I'd like to create a live 15.1 on a USB stick. Are there any official procedures? Please note, I want to create a usable system, not an install system. I already have one of those. A search turns up some procedures for Windows, but not Linux. I'd rather use Linux. Don't the usual places provide what you need:
Unless I'm mistaken, that provides an install USB stick, used to install openSUSE on a computer. I want to create a USB stick that I can use to run it.
The title certainly suggests otherwise. "Live" ? The article disagrees too - it is about creating a Live stick.
No, I think it is an obsolete article about copying the installation image to an USB stick. Obsolete: "Version: 12.2+ This applies to openSUSE 12.2 and later." It is the correct article but I think it has gotten worse over the years. More confusing. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXeFx9wAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1R1PAJ9ZZDafikTArMAFQ1oT7fcBrCGadQCfQWWSYmgAHQzqVi12lS9kWCQPrr0= =i2Qs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 02:17 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
The title certainly suggests otherwise. "Live" ? The article disagrees too - it is about creating a Live stick.
The instructions are for creating a bootable USB stick to install from. I already tried them and I wound up with an install disk, which I could boot to install on a computer. I want a USB stick that I can run Linux and apps from. This used to be available with earlier versions. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 02:17 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
The title certainly suggests otherwise. "Live" ? The article disagrees too - it is about creating a Live stick.
The instructions are for creating a bootable USB stick to install from. I already tried them and I wound up with an install disk, which I could boot to install on a computer. I want a USB stick that I can run Linux and apps from. This used to be available with earlier versions.
Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 05:33 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 02:17 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
The title certainly suggests otherwise. "Live" ? The article disagrees too - it is about creating a Live stick.
The instructions are for creating a bootable USB stick to install from. I already tried them and I wound up with an install disk, which I could boot to install on a computer. I want a USB stick that I can run Linux and apps from. This used to be available with earlier versions. Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date.
Carlos provided a link to where the images can be found. I installed the KDE one and it appears to be what I want. http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-stable/live/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 29 november 2019 23:33:02 CET schreef Per Jessen:
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 02:17 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
The title certainly suggests otherwise. "Live" ? The article disagrees too - it is about creating a Live stick.
The instructions are for creating a bootable USB stick to install from. I already tried them and I wound up with an install disk, which I could boot to install on a computer. I want a USB stick that I can run Linux and apps from. This used to be available with earlier versions.
Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date. Eh, don't guess: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op vrijdag 29 november 2019 23:33:02 CET schreef Per Jessen:
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 02:17 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
The title certainly suggests otherwise. "Live" ? The article disagrees too - it is about creating a Live stick.
The instructions are for creating a bootable USB stick to install from. I already tried them and I wound up with an install disk, which I could boot to install on a computer. I want a USB stick that I can run Linux and apps from. This used to be available with earlier versions.
Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date.
Eh, don't guess: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/
You're right, I really shouldn't have. What gobbledegook. Thanks for correcting me. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-30 02:15 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date. Eh, don't guess: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/ You're right, I really shouldn't have. What gobbledegook. Thanks for correcting me.
Maybe the live versions should be listed on the web site, as they used to be. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-30 02:15 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date. Eh, don't guess: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/ You're right, I really shouldn't have. What gobbledegook. Thanks for correcting me.
Maybe the live versions should be listed on the web site, as they used to be.
At least it would be useful if someone were to update that SDB article, to list the correct URLs. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 30/11/2019 13.35, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-30 02:15 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date. Eh, don't guess: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/ You're right, I really shouldn't have. What gobbledegook. Thanks for correcting me.
Maybe the live versions should be listed on the web site, as they used to be.
At least it would be useful if someone were to update that SDB article, to list the correct URLs.
They are there, but you have to know where to click. <https://www.opensuse.org/> Click on "leap" --> <https://www.opensuse.org/#Leap> Click on "install leap" <https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/leap> Look at the tabs: Installation - JeOS - Live - Ports **** This page should link to the detailed instructions. <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Installation> <https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help> <https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick> <https://en.opensuse.org/Create_installation_CD> Missing article, but mentioned on the portal. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXeJz+AAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1YEEAJ9gdFqA1irz7w023DwKcuDH382h1wCgj6Nsaa0VrJPkPKK8CXuHqNxd8E4= =oTvM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 30/11/2019 à 13:06, James Knott a écrit :
On 2019-11-30 02:15 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Okay - I guess we stopped supplying Live images a few versions back. I"m sorry that the SDB article is out of date. Eh, don't guess: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/ You're right, I really shouldn't have. What gobbledegook. Thanks for correcting me.
Maybe the live versions should be listed on the web site, as they used to be.
partially done here https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 29/11/2019 19.48, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 01:42 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
I'd like to create a live 15.1 on a USB stick. Are there any official procedures? Please note, I want to create a usable system, not an install system. I already have one of those. A search turns up some procedures for Windows, but not Linux. I'd rather use Linux. Don't the usual places provide what you need:
Unless I'm mistaken, that provides an install USB stick, used to install openSUSE on a computer. I want to create a USB stick that I can use to run it. I seem to recall such a thing for CDs years ago and even used it to test computers I was considering buying.
Have you looked at the XFCE rescue image? It is not an installation live, but one for "using" Linux. It is writeable. You may also install some extra things on it. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-stable/live/openSUSE-Leap-15.1-Rescue-CD-x86_64-Current.iso> Now, how to create your own, I don't know; susestudio is dead, AFAIK. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2019-11-29 02:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Have you looked at the XFCE rescue image? It is not an installation live, but one for "using" Linux. It is writeable. You may also install some extra things on it.
Now, how to create your own, I don't know; susestudio is dead, AFAIK.
That might do it, I'll have to check, though it appears fairly limited. However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive I'll have to try that too. Incidentally, the reason for all this is I bought a 128 GB USB 3.0 stick today for $10. I expect with USB 3, it will be fast enough to be a usable portable system. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 03:07 PM, James Knott wrote:
That might do it, I'll have to check, though it appears fairly limited. However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive
That appears to work, however it installs for whatever hardware is in the system it's installed with. For example, I get Intel video, with no way to change it. It would be nice if it was possible to select generic hardware, at least for video and Ethernet. The old Live CDs worked on whatever hardware was used. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 29/11/2019 21.37, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 03:07 PM, James Knott wrote:
That might do it, I'll have to check, though it appears fairly limited. However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive
That appears to work, however it installs for whatever hardware is in the system it's installed with. For example, I get Intel video, with no way to change it. It would be nice if it was possible to select generic hardware, at least for video and Ethernet.
The old Live CDs worked on whatever hardware was used.
Which the XFCE one is. From the same URL you can get the KDE and Gnome images, but the XFCE is a bit different. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXeGPSQAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1XsUAJ4t8X41gK9piCtFbb2E7u5tyLR8YgCeIXNG8U4KA6s2zTb2ibD6ssDb0qo= =Bxuf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 04:36 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The old Live CDs worked on whatever hardware was used. Which the XFCE one is. From the same URL you can get the KDE and Gnome images, but the XFCE is a bit different.
I had to go up a level to find the others. KDE appears to be there. I'll see how it goes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2019-11-29 at 17:02 -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 04:36 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The old Live CDs worked on whatever hardware was used. Which the XFCE one is. From the same URL you can get the KDE and Gnome images, but the XFCE is a bit different.
I had to go up a level to find the others. KDE appears to be there. I'll see how it goes.
Remember that the goal of the KDE and Gnome lives was to test then install openSUSE, but the XFCE image was to repair the installed system (a rescue system). It is writeable, but the other two were not (I don't know for sure if they are now). Also the XFCE image did not have an installer. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXeGWrRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVlGwAnAv649V+0e+tY9AsplLR ZWztMVYXAJwIVZhHHkpZBy9RasLMsnc5+F6HjQ== =v3pu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 2019-11-29 05:07 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had to go up a level to find the others. KDE appears to be there. I'll see how it goes.
Remember that the goal of the KDE and Gnome lives was to test then install openSUSE, but the XFCE image was to repair the installed system (a rescue system). It is writeable, but the other two were not (I don't know for sure if they are now). Also the XFCE image did not have an installer.
I wasn't looking for a repair system. I already use System Rescue for that. I just put that KDE version on the USB drive and it's booting now. However, that computer is only USB 2, so it will take a while. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 29/11/2019 23.14, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 05:07 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had to go up a level to find the others. KDE appears to be there. I'll see how it goes.
Remember that the goal of the KDE and Gnome lives was to test then install openSUSE, but the XFCE image was to repair the installed system (a rescue system). It is writeable, but the other two were not (I don't know for sure if they are now). Also the XFCE image did not have an installer.
I wasn't looking for a repair system.
It is not only a repair system, and as I said, you can install what you want with zypper.
I already use System Rescue for that. I just put that KDE version on the USB drive and it's booting now. However, that computer is only USB 2, so it will take a while.
- -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXeJxKAAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1QmCAKCHvm+y7cUD1opLBxMlSrtEtkDW6ACggYJkz3QW0r4K3iJkLU91tFgEtK0= =pyvr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 05:07 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Remember that the goal of the KDE and Gnome lives was to test then install openSUSE, but the XFCE image was to repair the installed system (a rescue system). It is writeable, but the other two were not (I don't know for sure if they are now). Also the XFCE image did not have an installer.
The KDE one appears to do what I want. tnx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/29/2019 12:37 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 03:07 PM, James Knott wrote:
That might do it, I'll have to check, though it appears fairly limited. However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive
That appears to work, however it installs for whatever hardware is in the system it's installed with. For example, I get Intel video, with no way to change it. It would be nice if it was possible to select generic hardware, at least for video and Ethernet.
The old Live CDs worked on whatever hardware was used.
Have you considered Knoppix? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoppix Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 04:43 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Have you considered Knoppix?
That's also worth considering. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 29 novembre 2019 21:07:18 GMT+01:00, James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> a écrit :
Now, how to create your own, I don't know; s.
Incidentally, the reason for all this is I bought a 128 GB USB 3.0 stick today for $10. I expect with USB 3, it will be fast enough to be a usable portable system.
in any case, do very the USB device with h2testw https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-de... there is a Linux version https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage.html at this price the risk of fake is very high jdd -- Envoyé de mon appareil Android avec Courriel K-9 Mail. Veuillez excuser ma brièveté. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 03:52 PM, jdd wrote:
in any case, do very the USB device with h2testw https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-de...
there is a Linux version
https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage.html
at this price the risk of fake is very high
That price is marked down for Black Friday (actually, Black Friday through Black Wednesday ;-) ). It's usually $21. I'm currently trying that test on a 4 GB USB stick and it's taking quite a while. I expect it will take a lot longer on the 128 GB one -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 29 novembre 2019 22:14:22 GMT+01:00, James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> a écrit :
On 2019-11-29 03:52 PM, jdd wrote:
in any case, do very the USB device with h2testw
https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-de...
there is a Linux version
https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage.html
at this price the risk of fake is very high
That price is marked down for Black Friday (actually, Black Friday through Black Wednesday ;-) ). It's usually $21.
I'm currently trying that test on a 4 GB USB stick and it's taking quite a while. I expect it will take a lot longer on the 128 GB one
yes, it's very long, specially if the device is only usb2, but I already got several fakes with USB pen and SD card, and a device can become nuts with them 😕 -- Envoyé de mon appareil Android avec Courriel K-9 Mail. Veuillez excuser ma brièveté. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-11-29 03:52 PM, jdd wrote:
in any case, do very the USB device with h2testw https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-de...
there is a Linux version
https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage.html
at this price the risk of fake is very high
Creating file 114.h2w ... OK! Free space: 16.00 MB That compares with the 115 GB that Partitioner shows, so I'd say it is a genuine 128 GB drive. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 30/11/2019 à 23:22, James Knott a écrit :
On 2019-11-29 03:52 PM, jdd wrote:
in any case, do very the USB device with h2testw https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-de...
there is a Linux version
https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage.html
at this price the risk of fake is very high
Creating file 114.h2w ... OK! Free space: 16.00 MB
That compares with the 115 GB that Partitioner shows, so I'd say it is a genuine 128 GB drive.
good :-)) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 29/11/2019 21.07, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 02:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Have you looked at the XFCE rescue image? It is not an installation live, but one for "using" Linux. It is writeable. You may also install some extra things on it.
Now, how to create your own, I don't know; susestudio is dead, AFAIK.
That might do it, I'll have to check, though it appears fairly limited.
As I said, you can install things to it. Not the kernel.
However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive
I'll have to try that too.
Incidentally, the reason for all this is I bought a 128 GB USB 3.0 stick today for $10. I expect with USB 3, it will be fast enough to be a usable portable system.
I would not risk it that way. A standard installation on an external disk is not optimized to minimize writes, which will kill the stick fast. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:38:46 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/11/2019 21.07, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 02:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Have you looked at the XFCE rescue image? It is not an installation live, but one for "using" Linux. It is writeable. You may also install some extra things on it.
Now, how to create your own, I don't know; susestudio is dead, AFAIK.
That might do it, I'll have to check, though it appears fairly limited.
As I said, you can install things to it. Not the kernel.
However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive
I'll have to try that too.
Incidentally, the reason for all this is I bought a 128 GB USB 3.0 stick today for $10. I expect with USB 3, it will be fast enough to be a usable portable system.
I would not risk it that way. A standard installation on an external disk is not optimized to minimize writes, which will kill the stick fast.
Carlos, are you sure about this? I don't have experience with USB live sticks and earlier I also read what you are saying. But I used an SSD for more than 5 years which ran a standard openSUSE installation 24/7 and never happened any problem to it. I would set up a standard openSUSE system on a HDD or SSD and configure to my liking and would copy that system onto a USB stick. Cheers, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 30/11/2019 à 20:13, Istvan Gabor a écrit :
what you are saying. But I used an SSD for more than 5 years which ran a standard openSUSE installation 24/7 and never happened any problem
a ssd is in no way like an usb pen (and not the same price) that said, given the usb device is much slower, it wont be used as much as any ssd
I would set up a standard openSUSE system on a HDD or SSD and configure to my liking and would copy that system onto a USB stick.
you have msata enclosures not that bigger than usb pen :-) (I have one) something like https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-External-Enclosure-mSATA-Supports/dp/B01A4XXLJ4 but the real problem is that alongside with updates the usb devis become more computer centric and do not work anymore on other hardware I made such a disk for demo purpose, simple copying a live openSUSE version to my 60Gb msata ssd, and it worked perfectly, but * the computer stopped to boot if the device was disconnected (solved by some sort of partition naming) * the external disk soon didn't anymore boot on other computer I just tried live-fat-usb and it don't give what I expected (no boot menu to choose between several distros, refused to boot in uefi mode...) too much work for the expected use jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 30/11/2019 20.13, Istvan Gabor wrote:
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:38:46 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/11/2019 21.07, James Knott wrote:
On 2019-11-29 02:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive
I'll have to try that too.
Incidentally, the reason for all this is I bought a 128 GB USB 3.0 stick today for $10. I expect with USB 3, it will be fast enough to be a usable portable system.
I would not risk it that way. A standard installation on an external disk is not optimized to minimize writes, which will kill the stick fast.
Carlos, are you sure about this?
Yes.
I don't have experience with USB live sticks and earlier I also read what you are saying. But I used an SSD
I did not say SSD. I said sticks. SSDs are much faster write than sticks and will last much longer. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXeLQAwAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1Rf+AJ0XGGNTSstvnHTOkUUDg8lQHUIIIgCeN8fbLc0004GIHafAVmgme4R1oOw= =kDiq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 30/11/2019 à 21:24, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
However, I just came across this: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_external_hard_drive
I'll have to try that too.
I'mp on the way to try this. Don't try with usb2 device, even ssd is dan slow (more than 5 hours for an install). usb3 and ssd gives 15 minutes... disk install and boot. What I have to solve is how to start grub2 with named disks and partitions. For partition I may have a solution, but for disks? May disk-by-id works? just now I have only the good usb disk on grub menu (disabled os-prober) thanks for any idea jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 13:22:36 -0500, James Knott wrote:
I'd like to create a live 15.1 on a USB stick. Are there any official procedures? Please note, I want to create a usable system, not an install system. I already have one of those. A search turns up some procedures for Windows, but not Linux. I'd rather use Linux.
I think there is not too much special thing in how to make bootable anything (USB stick, HDD, SSD). You should give a volume name to all file system partitions and reference the partitions everywhere (in /etc/fstab, grub.cfg) by the volume names/labels. Then the system should find all the devices during boot. Give volume name even to the swap space if you use swap. It also might be necessary to make the initrd so that it would have root=LABEL= and resume=LABEL= in the linux kernel command line options. Or make an initrd image by disabling the hostonly option. It will make a larger initrd image that should have everything to boot the OS on any hardware (if I interpreted it correctly). See my previous comments in this month: Re: [opensuse] dracut --kernel-cmdline option not effective? https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2019-11/msg00290.html I did not do it with USB stick, only with HHD that I transferred to other computer and it worked. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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