[opensuse] tumbleweed and vim question
Hi Folks, Okay, I'm ignorant, and my friend Google hasn't been of any help. I installed the latest tumbleweed this afternoon and was dismayed to see that the default vim behavior has changed. First, searching for a string by hitting "/" and entering the string was funky. Then cutting and pasting into an open vim screen in the "insert" mode using the left and right mouse buttons did surprising things. Pasting from the clipboard using the "edit/paste" drop down menu worked, but that's very cumbersome and is contrary to how I've been doing this for 35-years. Rather than giving up and learning how to use Windows 10, is there a way to configure tumbleweed's vim to emulate the old vi syntax? Thanks, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/03/2017 07:10 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Rather than giving up and learning how to use Windows 10, is there a way to configure tumbleweed's vim to emulate the old vi syntax?
I used to just remove "/etc/vimdata". But that gets old with Tumbleweed, because it keeps coming back with updates. Now I am using ".vimrc" to hopefully do the same thing. ----- .vimrc (first 3 lines) ----- syntax off set compatible set viminfo= ----- end of .vimrc (first 3 lines) --- I follow that with what was previously in my ".exrc". If you have a ".vimrc", it apparently doesn't look at ".exrc". The first of those lines turns of syntax highlighting. The second line is supposed to make it "vi" compatible. And the third line tells it to not save your position in the file (for repositioning when you next edit that file). Those seem to pretty much do the trick for me. Oh, and yes, I think I used "google" to find how to do that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Lew,
Hi Folks,
Okay, I'm ignorant, and my friend Google hasn't been of any help.
oops.
I installed the latest tumbleweed this afternoon and was dismayed to see that the default vim behavior has changed. First, searching for a string by hitting "/" and entering the string was funky. Then cutting and pasting into an open vim screen in the "insert" mode using the left and right mouse buttons did surprising things. Pasting from the clipboard using the "edit/paste" drop down menu worked, but that's very cumbersome and is contrary to how I've been doing this for 35-years.
Rather than giving up and learning how to use Windows 10, is there a way to configure tumbleweed's vim to emulate the old vi syntax?
If I remember correctly, there is a bug in the actual snapshot causing problems like yours.
Thanks, Lew
Bye. Michael. -- Michael Hirmke -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/04/2017 01:10 AM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Okay, I'm ignorant, and my friend Google hasn't been of any help.
I installed the latest tumbleweed this afternoon and was dismayed to see that the default vim behavior has changed. First, searching for a string by hitting "/" and entering the string was funky. Then cutting and pasting into an open vim screen in the "insert" mode using the left and right mouse buttons did surprising things. Pasting from the clipboard using the "edit/paste" drop down menu worked, but that's very cumbersome and is contrary to how I've been doing this for 35-years.
Rather than giving up and learning how to use Windows 10, is there a way to configure tumbleweed's vim to emulate the old vi syntax?
Hmm, I got the same paste problem after a fresh TW install (with an existing $HOME), but only in 'gnome-terminal', i.e., it worked in 'xterm'. After a reboot after 'zypper dup' from 20171030 to 20171101), now the problem seems to be gone for 'gnome-terminal' as well ... wait - not quite. - open gnome-terminal in regular user session (openbox here), - sudo -i - root$ vi /etc/hosts - enter 'insert' mode with 'i', - go into another terminal and double-click a word for selection - paste with middle mouse in root's vi session --> pastes something completely outdated. The same happens in xterm, so somehow the copy/paste into vim in a sudo session is the problem - but it works perfectly with the regular user. It also happens regardless of using 'sudo -i' or 'sudo bash' or 'su -' followed by entering vi, or also directly 'sudo vi file', or 'su -c "vi /etc/hosts"'. Strange and annoying ... Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/11/17 12:30, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
--> pastes something completely outdated. The same happens in xterm, so somehow the copy/paste into vim in a sudo session is the problem - but it works perfectly with the regular user.
Something to do with sharing copy/paste buffers? I have the same sort of problem pasting between linux and Windows VirtualBox. It's a case of finding the right place to fix the settings :-( Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/04/2017 01:36 PM, Wols Lists wrote:
On 04/11/17 12:30, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
--> pastes something completely outdated. The same happens in xterm, so somehow the copy/paste into vim in a sudo session is the problem - but it works perfectly with the regular user.
Something to do with sharing copy/paste buffers?
I have the same sort of problem pasting between linux and Windows VirtualBox. It's a case of finding the right place to fix the settings :-(
no, this is bare metal - a Dell OptiPlex 9020 which was running oS:13.2 before. Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, On Sat, 2017-11-04 at 12:36 +0000, Wols Lists wrote:
On 04/11/17 12:30, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
--> pastes something completely outdated. The same happens in xterm, so somehow the copy/paste into vim in a sudo session is the problem - but it works perfectly with the regular user.
Something to do with sharing copy/paste buffers?
I have the same sort of problem pasting between linux and Windows VirtualBox. It's a case of finding the right place to fix the settings :-(
I've also run into this problem with the clipboard. Vim provided by Factory is compiled without +clipboard support. You can check this with: vim --version | grep clipboard # Should see +clipboard and/or +xterm_clipboard if supported To get a version with clipboard support you can install gvim. Note: This does come with a lot of extra features you may not use/want. With clipboard support you can now set vim to use the system clipboard: # ~/.vimrc set clipboard=unnamedplus More info on the Vim clipboard and registers can be found here http://v im.wikia.com/wiki/Accessing_the_system_clipboard.
Cheers, Wol
Cheers, -- Sean Marlow Public Cloud Developer sean.marlow@suse.com
04.11.2017 15:30, Bernhard Voelker пишет:
- open gnome-terminal in regular user session (openbox here), - sudo -i - root$ vi /etc/hosts - enter 'insert' mode with 'i', - go into another terminal and double-click a word for selection - paste with middle mouse in root's vi session --> pastes something completely outdated. The same happens in xterm, so somehow the copy/paste into vim in a sudo session is the problem - but it works perfectly with the regular user.
Compare "set mouse" in both cases. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/04/2017 06:58 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
04.11.2017 15:30, Bernhard Voelker пишет:
- open gnome-terminal in regular user session (openbox here), - sudo -i - root$ vi /etc/hosts - enter 'insert' mode with 'i', - go into another terminal and double-click a word for selection - paste with middle mouse in root's vi session --> pastes something completely outdated. The same happens in xterm, so somehow the copy/paste into vim in a sudo session is the problem - but it works perfectly with the regular user.
Compare "set mouse" in both cases.
Bingo: "mouse=" as regular user, "mouse=a" as root. Don't know where this comes from: the regular user doesn't have this in his .vimrc, and root doesn't (better didn't, hehe) have a .vimrc at all. Thanks & have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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