[opensuse] Re: We have finally reached Windows standards :-)
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [03-31-13 19:52]: [...]
But it is far simpler and even faster to say "reboot". Covers all cases >;-)
Common, restarting services with systemd needs a book, with all those long commands to type! :-p
Shhhh, it's still a secret but I don't know of any services I have used that cannot still be restarted using: rc<service-name> restart
If a basic library used in almost all applications is updated (recent updates to libxml* or libkrb* come to mind) then you would have to restart many many services on your workstation, and also to log out and log in back, when X uses them. Then it's less work, and also faster, to reboot... Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod, Roedermark, Germany Email: jschrod@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Joachim Schrod wrote:
If a basic library used in almost all applications is updated (recent updates to libxml* or libkrb* come to mind) then you would have to restart many many services on your workstation, and also to log out and log in back, when X uses them.
When I do an update with Yast, it automagically restarts the affected services, if needed. I have never seen it recommend a reboot, except on kernel update. Now compare this with Windows, where installing or updating almost anything will require a reboot and sometimes that reboot occurs when you're in the middle of using the computer, as Steve Ballmer found out the hard way, in the middle of a presentation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2013-04-01 at 11:34 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Joachim Schrod wrote:
If a basic library used in almost all applications is updated (recent updates to libxml* or libkrb* come to mind) then you would have to restart many many services on your workstation, and also to log out and log in back, when X uses them.
When I do an update with Yast, it automagically restarts the affected services, if needed. I have never seen it recommend a reboot, except on kernel update.
This is intentional. It would be politically incorrect to recomend a reboot in Linux, so they don't, even if they should >:-P - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlFaAqoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Wz2wCffRHxzHeNDMTjInoVr4pFxGNx +skAn11QWaUVnwvmi3g1uauUD25K5/58 =th6i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
When I do an update with Yast, it automagically restarts the affected services, if needed. I have never seen it recommend a reboot, except on kernel update. ====
But...couldn't they boot a new kernel in a virtual space, the pivot root to the new kernelspace, and transfer over services as you would on a cluster in fail-over? If you were a desktop user, you might never notice it having gone down? ;-| Well...theoretically anyway! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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