I am looking at setting up a system that will need a domain name and DDNS. I'm curious what the current state of these things are in openSUSE. I guess the main thing is support for an application that informs the DDNS service of the current IP address for the machine. Any preferences? Providers to avoid? -- Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:58 PM Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> wrote:
I am looking at setting up a system that will need a domain name and DDNS.
<https://dynv6.com/> <https://desec.io/> (oopen sourced project if I remember)
I'm curious what the current state of these things are in openSUSE. I guess the main thing is support for an application that informs the DDNS service of the current IP address for the machine. Any preferences? Providers to avoid?
opensuse obviously, as usual, has ancient package versions for example using ddclient :( ddclient upstream original project does support much more "providers" of these kind in their scripts etc opensuse? too bad :/
Am 12.09.22 um 13:44 schrieb cagsm:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:58 PM Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> wrote:
I am looking at setting up a system that will need a domain name and DDNS.
<https://dynv6.com/> <https://desec.io/> (oopen sourced project if I remember)
I'm curious what the current state of these things are in openSUSE. I guess the main thing is support for an application that informs the DDNS service of the current IP address for the machine. Any preferences? Providers to avoid?
opensuse obviously, as usual, has ancient package versions for example using ddclient :(
ddclient upstream original project does support much more "providers" of these kind in their scripts etc opensuse? too bad :/
I used this stuff ages ago but for many many years I didn't need anything like that on an openSUSE system anymore because at the edge of a dynamic IP endpoint I never use openSUSE anymore. Really wondering how many of those cases still exist? I always have some sort of dedicated device (call it a router ;-)) inbetween taking care about that termination. But I do not question that there are single usecases where it might be relevant. In that case some user hopefully finds the time to update the component we have in openSUSE ;-) Wolfgang
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 2:00 PM Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:
Am 12.09.22 um 13:44 schrieb cagsm:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:58 PM Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> wrote:
I am looking at setting up a system that will need a domain name and DDNS.
<https://dynv6.com/> <https://desec.io/> (oopen sourced project if I remember)
I'm curious what the current state of these things are in openSUSE. I guess the main thing is support for an application that informs the DDNS service of the current IP address for the machine. Any preferences? Providers to avoid?
opensuse obviously, as usual, has ancient package versions for example using ddclient :(
ddclient upstream original project does support much more "providers" of these kind in their scripts etc opensuse? too bad :/
I used this stuff ages ago but for many many years I didn't need anything like that on an openSUSE system anymore because at the edge of a dynamic IP endpoint I never use openSUSE anymore. Really wondering how many of those cases still exist? I always have some sort of dedicated device (call it a router ;-)) inbetween taking care about that termination.
But I do not question that there are single usecases where it might be relevant. In that case some user hopefully finds the time to update the component we have in openSUSE ;-)
I see that the router we are looking at supports a couple ddns providers. Like DynDns and no-ip. I don't know if it supports others. The docs are incomplete to me. We haven't received it yet. The ddclient in openSUSE Tumbleweed is 3.9.1 (Jan 2020). In Leap 15.x, it is 3.8.3 (May 2015). The current ddclient is 3.10.2 (May 2022). So, for Tumbleweed (which I'm using in this system), not as ancient as one might have expected. Odd that Leap hasn't moved to the one set up for Tumbleweed. I think it's Perl scripts. But it seems cleaner to let the router manage this since it's sort of in it's domain of tasks. -- Roger Oberholtzer
Roger, et al -- This may be old news by now, but ... ...and then Roger Oberholtzer said... ... % guess the main thing is support for an application that informs the % DDNS service of the current IP address for the machine. Any % preferences? Providers to avoid? I've been very happy with afraid.org FreeDNS and just use their curl script. Works across all of our platforms so far :-) % % % -- % Roger Oberholtzer HTH & HANN :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 2:07 AM David T-G <davidtg-robot@justpickone.org> wrote:
This may be old news by now, but ...
Not old news. I didn't get many responses. So thanks for that.
...and then Roger Oberholtzer said... ... % guess the main thing is support for an application that informs the % DDNS service of the current IP address for the machine. Any % preferences? Providers to avoid?
I've been very happy with afraid.org FreeDNS and just use their curl script. Works across all of our platforms so far :-)
-- Roger Oberholtzer
btw, what is wrong with the long-term pending or stalled opensuse maintenance release for ddclient? <https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Maintenance:17573> what gives? :( why is opensuse so very much dated :((((( ty
On 2022-09-20 13:21:47 cagsm wrote:
|btw, what is wrong with the long-term pending or stalled opensuse |maintenance release for ddclient? | |<https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Maintenance:17573> | |what gives? :( why is opensuse so very much dated :((((( |ty
Because Leap is based on SLES, which is intended for business use and therefore is /very/ stable, not at all "Bleeding Edge", almost to the point where it runs quite a few apps that are on the edge of obsolescence. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 x86_64
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:30 PM J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@mail.com> wrote:
Because Leap is based on SLES, which is intended for business use and therefore is /very/ stable, not at all "Bleeding Edge", almost to the point where it runs quite a few apps that are on the edge of obsolescence.
That might be the case. But what about Tumbleweed? Or Factory? Wouldn't either of those contain bleeding edge? I am guessing it is more a matter of who is maintaining the package. -- Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:30 PM J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@mail.com> wrote:
|what gives? :( why is opensuse so very much dated :((((( Because Leap is based on SLES, which is intended for business use and therefore is /very/ stable, not at all "Bleeding Edge", almost to the point where it runs quite a few apps that are on the edge of obsolescence.
heh :D I like your and the opensuse ways and style of humor ;p just recently cutting edge x86-64_v3 ABI or such was in discussion for leap something and now half a decade old packages from upstream are the state of the art ;p seriously. ty
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:21 PM cagsm <cumandgets0mem00f@gmail.com> wrote:
btw, what is wrong with the long-term pending or stalled opensuse maintenance release for ddclient?
<https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Maintenance:17573>
maybe I missed an answer that I could make sense of, but isnt this build maintenance stuff supposed to become release for curren Leap? why is it pending and delayed or long? will we ever get a new and current ddclient for leap at last? pending for three months or even longer now. any insight? ty.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 7:30 PM cagsm <cumandgets0mem00f@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:21 PM cagsm <cumandgets0mem00f@gmail.com> wrote:
btw, what is wrong with the long-term pending or stalled opensuse maintenance release for ddclient?
<https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Maintenance:17573>
maybe I missed an answer that I could make sense of, but isnt this build maintenance stuff supposed to become release for curren Leap? why is it pending and delayed or long? will we ever get a new and current ddclient for leap at last?
pending for three months or even longer now. any insight? ty.
No idea. The suggestion to use the router's ability to register the address is probably the way I will go. As to OBS in general, I think it has gotten a bit confusing. I don't think that there are any best practices for which distros to enable for a package. For user packages, I guess it will always be whatever they were interested in. I personally try to maintain builds for all current SUSE, Leap and Tumbleweed. I can't say I'm 100% successful... -- Roger Oberholtzer
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