Re: [opensuse] Linux will never overtake Windows
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From: "Alexey Eremenko"
Well, this article point at two well-known problems: cross-distro packaging and cross-distro compatibility. Those problems are old as a linux world. Which doesn't prevents my father and mother use Linux successfully.
There are many solutions that try to solve both problems (such as Autopackage and klik), but the most serious undertake is the LSB, The Linux Standards Base.
He makes a valid point. From the average user's point of view, some things tend to install easier with Windows. My most recent experience, went to a website that required flash-player 9. On windows the download and install went smooth. On my linux suse-10 the install didn't go as smooth, the rpm provided by Adobe installed the plugin in the wrong place, something like /usr/..., but it was supposed to go /opt/MozillaFirefox/.. I love linux, using since suse-8, would never go back to windows, but windows does make some things easier on the "average joe" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
--- Matt Stamm
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Alexey Eremenko"
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:14:15 +0200 Well, this article point at two well-known problems: cross-distro packaging and cross-distro compatibility. Those problems are old as a linux world. Which doesn't prevents my father and mother use Linux successfully.
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He makes a valid point. From the average user's point of view, some things tend to install easier with Windows.
My most recent experience, went to a website that required flash-player 9. On windows the download and install went smooth. On my linux suse-10 the install didn't go as smooth, the rpm provided by Adobe installed the plugin in the wrong place, something like /usr/..., but it was supposed to go /opt/MozillaFirefox/..
Problem installs/upgrades are not confined to linux - not all Windows upgrades go smoothly. At school I tried to get Quicktime updated for FF and still have yet to figure out how to fix it so something happens other than seeing the big Q with a ? mark in it. However, because of the Q-time problem in FF my teachers have gone back to using IE. I have both SUSE 10.2 and Mepis 6.0 running on machines at home and have no problem with them in this regard. StephenW -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 20 January 2007 07:03, Matt Stamm wrote:
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Alexey Eremenko"
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:14:15 +0200 Well, this article point at two well-known problems: cross-distro packaging and cross-distro compatibility. Those problems are old as a linux world. Which doesn't prevents my father and mother use Linux successfully.
There are many solutions that try to solve both problems (such as Autopackage and klik), but the most serious undertake is the LSB, The Linux Standards Base.
He makes a valid point. From the average user's point of view, some things tend to install easier with Windows.
Especially things like, trojans, worms, viruses, malware, ad nauseum, heh heh.
My most recent experience, went to a website that required flash-player 9. On windows the download and install went smooth. On my linux suse-10 the install didn't go as smooth, the rpm provided by Adobe installed the plugin in the wrong place, something like /usr/..., but it was supposed to go /opt/MozillaFirefox/..
I'm still with 9.3 and in /opt/<browser> all the libflashplayer.so's are linked to /usr/lib/browserplugins all except for in /home/me/.firefox and .mozilla
I love linux, using since suse-8, would never go back to windows, but windows does make some things easier on the "average joe"
When I was still using M$, the only thing it made easier for me was to cuss the system and kick the side of the tower every once in a while, which I know didn't help the the system get any better, but picturing BG's face on the side of the tower while giving it a few good bumps with the side of my foot made *me* feel better. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
JB wrote:
On Saturday 20 January 2007 07:03, Matt Stamm wrote:
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Alexey Eremenko"
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:14:15 +0200 Well, this article point at two well-known problems: cross-distro packaging and cross-distro compatibility. Those problems are old as a linux world. Which doesn't prevents my father and mother use Linux successfully.
There are many solutions that try to solve both problems (such as Autopackage and klik), but the most serious undertake is the LSB, The Linux Standards Base. He makes a valid point. From the average user's point of view, some things tend to install easier with Windows.
Especially things like, trojans, worms, viruses, malware, ad nauseum, heh heh.
My most recent experience, went to a website that required flash-player 9. On windows the download and install went smooth. On my linux suse-10 the install didn't go as smooth, the rpm provided by Adobe installed the plugin in the wrong place, something like /usr/..., but it was supposed to go /opt/MozillaFirefox/..
I'm still with 9.3 and in /opt/<browser> all the libflashplayer.so's are linked to /usr/lib/browserplugins all except for in /home/me/.firefox and .mozilla
I love linux, using since suse-8, would never go back to windows, but windows does make some things easier on the "average joe"
When I was still using M$, the only thing it made easier for me was to cuss the system and kick the side of the tower every once in a while, which I know didn't help the the system get any better, but picturing BG's face on the side of the tower while giving it a few good bumps with the side of my foot made *me* feel better.
I'm using suse 10.1 and browser plugins are also in /usr/lib/browser-plugins. The various browsers all have symlinks to that directory. So the problem the OP reported is completely a non-problem. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007-01-20 07:03, Matt Stamm wrote:
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He makes a valid point. From the average user's point of view, some things tend to install easier with Windows.
My most recent experience, went to a website that required flash-player 9. On windows the download and install went smooth. On my linux suse-10 the install didn't go as smooth That is why opensuse has put RPMs in the build-service repository.
-- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
He does make a valid point, and where he does, we should try to address it. Installation across various forms of Linux is a b!tch at times, and for any mainstream popularity, that can't happen. People want simplicity, that means one rpm and one installation. Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2007-01-20 07:03, Matt Stamm wrote:
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He makes a valid point. From the average user's point of view, some things tend to install easier with Windows.
My most recent experience, went to a website that required flash-player 9. On windows the download and install went smooth. On my linux suse-10 the install didn't go as smooth That is why opensuse has put RPMs in the build-service repository.
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John Meyer wrote:
He does make a valid point, and where he does, we should try to address it. Installation across various forms of Linux is a b!tch at times, and for any mainstream popularity, that can't happen. People want simplicity, that means one rpm and one installation.
Of course, installing *Windows* from scratch is a bitch at times, too, but almost no one does that as the hardware manufacturers pre-install it... and tons of bloat/spy-ware. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Buddy Coffey
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Darryl Gregorash
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J Sloan
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JB
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John Meyer
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Matt Stamm
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StephenW