[opensuse] 12.1 installation failure
downloaded and burned 12.1 iso, 64bit target machine: new Dell XPS X8300 6007BK i72600 Radeon HD 6450 2x500GB disks in hardware raid 1) Initial bits of the install come up ok (get the initial menu) 2) Select "Installation" 3) screen goes to dark flat green, otherwise blank 4) wait a few seconds, hit ESC, screen goes blank white 5) and that's it. Nothing else happens or helps Tried "Check Installation", which had the very odd result of coming up ok, but with the screen wrapped 50% to the right (i.e. the left half of the screen was on the right, and the right half was on the left of the monitor). It did a plain progress meter, eventually deciding that things were OK, then went into the install screens. They "worked" although were still wrapped around. (nice touch that it did detect the hardware raid and seemed happy with it). I stopped at this point, made nervous by the wrapping, etc.. Further tries only resulted in the really bad sequence mentioned first in this email, irrespective of choosing "Installation" or "Check Installation". Suggestions? Thanks. Michael -- Michael Fischer michael@visv.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Mar 10, Michael Fischer wrote:
downloaded and burned 12.1 iso, 64bit
target machine: new Dell XPS X8300 6007BK i72600 Radeon HD 6450 2x500GB disks in hardware raid
1) Initial bits of the install come up ok (get the initial menu) 2) Select "Installation" 3) screen goes to dark flat green, otherwise blank 4) wait a few seconds, hit ESC, screen goes blank white 5) and that's it. Nothing else happens or helps
Further info, from 11.4 it does not have this problem. Michael -- Michael Fischer michael@visv.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 10 Mar 2012 17:41:15 Michael Fischer wrote:
downloaded and burned 12.1 iso, 64bit
target machine: new Dell XPS X8300 6007BK i72600 Radeon HD 6450 2x500GB disks in hardware raid
1) Initial bits of the install come up ok (get the initial menu) 2) Select "Installation" 3) screen goes to dark flat green, otherwise blank 4) wait a few seconds, hit ESC, screen goes blank white 5) and that's it. Nothing else happens or helps
Tried "Check Installation", which had the very odd result of coming up ok, but with the screen wrapped 50% to the right (i.e. the left half of the screen was on the right, and the right half was on the left of the monitor).
It did a plain progress meter, eventually deciding that things were OK, then went into the install screens. They "worked" although were still wrapped around. (nice touch that it did detect the hardware raid and seemed happy with it).
From what you describe here with the wrapping it sure sounds like an issue with graphics drivers, the first thing to try would probably be to see if you can continue with the installation by passing 'nomodeset' as a kernel boot paramater.
To do this, enter the string "nomodeset", without quotes, into the field below the menu options at the first installation choice screen that appears when you boot from your media. Then select the Install option and see if the graphics behave better. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Mar 11, Graham Anderson wrote:
On Saturday 10 Mar 2012 17:41:15 Michael Fischer wrote:
From what you describe here with the wrapping it sure sounds like an issue with graphics drivers, the first thing to try would probably be to see if you can continue with the installation by passing 'nomodeset' as a kernel boot paramater.
To do this, enter the string "nomodeset", without quotes, into the field below the menu options at the first installation choice screen that appears when you boot from your media. Then select the Install option and see if the graphics behave better.
Yes, I discovered this trick a few hours ago and tried it. It worked. This does make me a bit concerned that if I need to add it permanently to grub/menu.lst that I will have poor graphics. I don't need much, but I do like fairly good resolution on my large monitors. Incidentally, how do I find out what resolution I'm actually running? These things keep changing with different versions. Currently running 11.4 with the target monitor. Also just discovered that this thing has the Dell fake raid running. Need to decide what to do about that.... Thanks for the tip. Michael -- Michael Fischer michael@visv.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/03/11 03:09 (GMT-0400) Michael Fischer composed:
Graham Anderson wrote:
see if you can continue with the installation by passing 'nomodeset' as a kernel boot paramater.
Yes, I discovered this trick a few hours ago and tried it. It worked.
Care to share how you discovered?
This does make me a bit concerned that if I need to add it permanently to grub/menu.lst that I will have poor graphics. I don't need much, but I do like fairly good resolution on my large monitors.
Since the kernel people decided we need KMS, it's far more common to need it only during installation than it is after. Video performance is usually quite bad any time it is needed with popular modern video chips, which is rarely a problem during installation, and usually is after.
Incidentally, how do I find out what resolution I'm actually running?
/var/log/Xorg.0.log xrandr krandrtray xdpyinfo http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html are some ways. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Mar 11, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/03/11 03:09 (GMT-0400) Michael Fischer composed:
Graham Anderson wrote:
see if you can continue with the installation by passing 'nomodeset' as a kernel boot paramater.
Yes, I discovered this trick a few hours ago and tried it. It worked.
Care to share how you discovered?
Decided to download a LiveCD image, with the notion of possibly checking machines at the store if the nice salesmen let me... while on that page I took a look at the release notes link wondering exactly which kernel version came with 12.1. Noticed the thing about KMS there... This also reminded me that I'd seen something similar in an unrelated post on this list.
This does make me a bit concerned that if I need to add it permanently to grub/menu.lst that I will have poor graphics. I don't need much, but I do like fairly good resolution on my large monitors.
Since the kernel people decided we need KMS, it's far more common to need it only during installation than it is after. Video performance is usually quite bad any time it is needed with popular modern video chips, which is rarely a problem during installation, and usually is after.
Ok. This thing has a Radeon HD 6450. I saw something at Phoronix stating that it worked fine out of the box (ubuntu 10.4 I think), so I was hopeful, but this bit with nomodeset is rather discouraging - never had to do that before.
Incidentally, how do I find out what resolution I'm actually running?
/var/log/Xorg.0.log xrandr krandrtray xdpyinfo http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html
Ah, helpful. xdpyinfo seems to say that I'm running at 1920x1200 while the logfile lists lots of Modelines, that one is listed first, and I see "h_active: 1920" and "v_active: 1200" so that looks like confirmation to me. I should probably post a separate question about various cards. Considering Radeon 5450, GeForce 210 and GeForce 8600GS in case this one doesn't work out. In case anyone is reading this and has experience with those - particularly as an "add on" card overriding an onboard one, I'd love to hear about it. Thanks again. Michael -- Michael Fischer michael@visv.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/03/11 04:02 (GMT-0400) Michael Fischer composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
Since the kernel people decided we need KMS, it's far more common to need it only during installation than it is after. Video performance is usually quite bad any time it is needed with popular modern video chips, which is rarely a problem during installation, and usually is after.
Ok. This thing has a Radeon HD 6450. I saw something at Phoronix stating that it worked fine out of the box (ubuntu 10.4 I think), so I was hopeful, but this bit with nomodeset is rather discouraging - never had to do that before.
With the kernel devs conscripting more and more functions from userspace (e.g. KMS, and its nomodeset workaround), it becomes harder and harder to adequately test the kernel. Couple that with the continual introduction of new models of video chips and devs with limited hardware to test with, and adequate testing should be seen as nothing but a dream. By the time the kernel gets into the installation process, testing is even less adequate. The distro really needs more people doing test installs, long before each release gets into RC stage. cf. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=747968 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-11 08:09, Michael Fischer wrote:
Incidentally, how do I find out what resolution I'm actually running?
Usually monitors have a button function that does just that, tell you what mode they are actually running. Mine does it from "menu/i". - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9cpKgACgkQIvFNjefEBxp1AACffCrexlz6UQO9Ro8vRRnkIhAj 8JEAoLWVCNJP7Rp2fUuXd3tBtiNXzJnp =hcqQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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