Clark Sann wrote:

Wifi still doesn't work as well as it should under Linux but it is usable. (What it should do is let you be connected to a wired connection at the same time you are connected via wifi, just like windoze does.)

If you get one of these and need any help, let me know.

Clark

LOL, "just like windoze"... sheesh. Well, it's good to hear that windoze can finally handle that sort of thing too. FWIW Linux has no problems talking to all sorts of different networks at the same time - the limitation you're referring to is simply a design decision in the network manager applet you most likely use to manage your connection. If you like network manager but want to be able to use it on several networks, that might be a good feature for an enhancement request. In the meantime it can be done with good old ifup. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:59 +0100, koffiejunkie wrote:

J Sloan wrote:

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Clark Sann wrote:

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Wifi still doesn't work as well as it should under Linux but it is usable. (What it should do is let you be connected to a wired connection at the same time you are connected via wifi, just like windoze does.)

If you get one of these and need any help, let me know.

Clark

LOL, "just like windoze"... sheesh. Well, it's good to hear that windoze can finally handle that sort of thing too.

Windows has been able to do this for years. At least from 98, if not 95.

No, software config apps written specially for the wifi card has been working for years on Windows - not the default windows wifi apps - they still dont work on my Dell D820 (configured by Dell out of the box). I havent been following this discussion, but if NetworkManager was ever mentioned as a wifi config tool - forget it - its buggy and incomplete - when finished its going to be great. (it can handle very simple setups at the moment) Why cant you config a wired and wifi network at the same time? this is standard networking stuff, if you are willing to do it "by hand". Hans E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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J Sloan wrote:

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Clark Sann wrote:

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Wifi still doesn't work as well as it should under Linux but it is usable. (What it should do is let you be connected to a wired connection at the same time you are connected via wifi, just like windoze does.)

If you get one of these and need any help, let me know.

Clark

LOL, "just like windoze"... sheesh. Well, it's good to hear that windoze can finally handle that sort of thing too.

Windows has been able to do this for years. At least from 98, if not 95.

It rather depends what you are doing, routing, bridging, multiple independent connections to same LAN, or multiple independent connections to different LANs. Windows can be a real pig to set up if you doing anything other than simple networking, (and dont even think about it in Win9x). The reliability of Windows WiFi networking in w2K and early XP in a multi-AP or multi-network scenarios was notoriously bad. Linux is usually very flexible in this regard and is usually only constrained by the technical limitations of the hardware once you the drivers working. Provided you use the CLI tools you usually get what you want, Network Manager and the KDE tool are somewhat limited IMHO and personally I never use them. - From experience I would say when one can have as many problems with non-embedded WiFi configurations with Windows as one can have with Linux configurations generally. The manufacturers usually ensure that the drivers work with the embedded chip set for Windows 32 on laptops (windows 64bit is still pretty poor), whereas the more generic WiFi drivers can be troublesome in Windows not least some manufactures tend to install their own management tools which in turn may conflict with other windows tools (can get very messy). OP does not indicate whether he has tried the Windows drivers for the original machine with NDISWRAPPER (which would be my immediate fall back position if SuSE cannot load the WiFi from installation). This can work well with the 32 bit OS, (64 bit OS can get to be difficult). The main problem I find with NDISWRAPPER is configuration is not for the technically inexperienced. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuCdnasN0sSnLmgIRAqcBAKDfkXEVlvMMbEGMRWsySLSMYcZ2owCeNJRv nIoJfWHowtTYmsM87kFoE9U= =qDqn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

koffiejunkie wrote:

J Sloan wrote:

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Clark Sann wrote:

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Wifi still doesn't work as well as it should under Linux but it is usable. (What it should do is let you be connected to a wired connection at the same time you are connected via wifi, just like windoze does.)

If you get one of these and need any help, let me know.

Clark

LOL, "just like windoze"... sheesh. Well, it's good to hear that windoze can finally handle that sort of thing too.

Windows has been able to do this for years. At least from 98, if not 95. In the mid-90s, I was the lone linux guy in an office, and the windoze users were mystified as to how I could be on several networks at once.

(shrug) - take it for what it's worth. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On 8/7/07, Jerry Houston wrote:

Linux-friendly PCMCIA Wireless Card?

I recently bought Netgear WG511 v2 that has Marvel chip, DON'T BUY that one.

It works only with ndiswrapper using windows drivers so you will not get benefit of kismet, airsnort/crack and other advance features.

I'll add my vote of "no confidence" to this. Last time I tried it SUSE (10.1) would freeze up the moment I load the ndiswrapper module.

Marvel = crap. Stay away.

Agreed ... For anyone working with WiFi and SuSE these three links are worth exploring or bookmarking... http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Network_Adapters_%28Wireless%29 http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/ - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuCqPasN0sSnLmgIRAlqVAKDbh+zwDoSeZkfRtw8RKrx2hjK1kwCfbdXp 47MLiCpmYmyMoZhdgsA7CMs= =qk5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org