Hi, I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast and there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and do this) Thanks in advance. Thom Nuzum (in DC)
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck. Zach On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Hi,
I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast and there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and do this)
Here is the readme that goes with the latest drivers: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-4496/README.txt Try running nvidia-installer --update (I think that is the command) whilst you have an internet connection and all should be set. If you are using 1.3x of the driver you are going to have to download the installer from Nvidia. Matt On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 16:29, Zach Smith wrote:
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck.
Zach
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Hi,
I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast and there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and do this)
The nvidia-installer (nice did't know they had one) runs just fine thanks, but I am still unable to get a screen or configure in yast: locks up after test. The German list says a fx 5200 should work without problems. I think the problem may be in hardware detection as Yast still shows the 4200 card. I shall do some more searching.
Here is the readme that goes with the latest drivers:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-4496/README.txt
Try running nvidia-installer --update (I think that is the command) whilst you have an internet connection and all should be set. If you are using 1.3x of the driver you are going to have to download the installer from Nvidia.
Matt
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 16:29, Zach Smith wrote:
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck.
Zach
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Hi,
I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast and there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and do this)
-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
So i got to ditch the Athlon Kernel it seems and install the default and source: now all is well. On Sunday 03 August 2003 11:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
The nvidia-installer (nice did't know they had one) runs just fine thanks, but I am still unable to get a screen or configure in yast: locks up after test. The German list says a fx 5200 should work without problems. I think the problem may be in hardware detection as Yast still shows the 4200 card. I shall do some more searching.
Here is the readme that goes with the latest drivers:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-4496/README.txt
Try running nvidia-installer --update (I think that is the command) whilst you have an internet connection and all should be set. If you are using 1.3x of the driver you are going to have to download the installer from Nvidia.
Matt
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 16:29, Zach Smith wrote:
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck.
Zach
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Hi,
I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast
and
there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and
do this)
-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
-- Thom Nuzum (in DC)
The nvidia-installer (nice did't know they had one) runs just fine thanks, but I am still unable to get a screen or configure in yast: locks up after test. The German list says a fx 5200 should work without problems. I think the problem may be in hardware detection as Yast still shows the 4200 card. I shall do some more searching.
Here is the readme that goes with the latest drivers:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-4496/README.txt
Try running nvidia-installer --update (I think that is the command) whilst you have an internet connection and all should be set. If you are using 1.3x of the driver you are going to have to download the installer from Nvidia.
Matt
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 16:29, Zach Smith wrote:
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck.
Zach
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Hi,
I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast
and
there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and
do this)
Additonal to the nVidia readme mentioned above, you need to also read
thom@cavtel.net wrote: the doc on the SuSE site which is here- ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html What I also suggest is that after you have installed the nVidia driver, on boot when you get the boot menu press TAB key and then type "init 3" (without the quotes), login as root and then run "SaX2" (without the quotes). See if you can find the your card under the ADAPTER option. (While you are in SaX2 you may as well set any other settings that may require amending, eg the monitor. But read the HOWTO from SuSE (above) because it may contain the answer to your problem. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 02 August 2003 06:29 pm, Zach Smith wrote:
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck.
Zach
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Hi,
I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast and there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and do this)
OK, in the sax cdb (card data base) is a listing of all the cards sax recognizes. When on goes to the NVIDIA README and looks at the cards the drivers support then one finds the following: GeForce FX 5200 0x0322 GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 0x0321 And in Sax on finds: NVidia:0x0321 { 3DDriver = nvidia 3DProfile = nvidia Flag = 3D Extension = glx Driver = nv } NVidia:0x0322 { 3DDriver = nvidia 3DProfile = nvidia Flag = 3D Extension = glx Driver = nv } So it seems that your card is supported by sax. The questions are these however: A) are you chosing the right vid card module from sax? Given that this is not explicitly labelled GeForceFX 5200, might you have better success with chosing the card labelled "0x0322" or "0x0321"? B) is the listing in /var/lib/hardward/unique-keys causing a problem? This has been the case in the past with soundcards, and it may or may not be causing problems. C) One might manually edit the XF86Config to change the labelled identifiers to the video card as such #BoardName "GeForce3 Ti 200" BoardName "0x0322" Driver "nvidia" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "CursorShadowAlpha" "64" Option "CursorShadowXOffset" "4" Option "DigitalVibrance" "175" Option "CursorShadow" "1" Option "NvAGP" "3" Option "NoBandWidthTest" "1" Option "CursorShadowYOffset" "4" Option "NoLogo" "1" Screen 0 Option "Rotate" "off" VendorName "NVidia" And is the module "GLX" designated in the XF86Config? as such: Section "Module" Load "type1" Load "glx" *************************************** Load "v4l" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "dbe" ************ as well as this *********** Load "extmod ************ and this ***************** There are other parameters that are in conjunction with the way the the Xserver, video card/drivers, and monitors interact. Sometimes these don't play nice with each others. This has been my experience with problems between video card and monitors. I have had to in the past add options such as: Option "UseEdidFreqs" "boolean" Option "IgnoreEDID" "boolean" And Option "NoDDC" "boolean" This is due to failings in the NVIDIA drivers while "probing" the monitors. There is also a no probe option, but it escapes me now. You might need to reconfig you monitor as well, lord knows I have had to do this before several times. Just as soon as the 3Ddiag and other checks indicate the drivers are installed and operating as they should it fails on the X start (similar to you problem) so I have to go back and config it all over making sure that the monitor is reconfiged as well. HTH, Curtis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/LV3fiqnGhdjCOJsRAnenAJ4qtC4oE0py3AEY+FipDrHODij6YgCfQ47N 5TFYtuRCK43g3ad3E3OELJI= =aFQ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Thanks for this. Don't know if this was the best way. I just installed the default kernel and removed the Athlon one. did the Nvidia-install, enabled 3d and all works. Not sure if I should use the Athlon kernel or not though. On Sunday 03 August 2003 15:09, Curtis Rey wrote:
On Saturday 02 August 2003 06:29 pm, Zach Smith wrote:
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck.
Zach
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:53, thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Hi,
I just replaced old Geforce with a new Geforce FX 5200. I boot into a blank screen now. Starting in text mode I can start Yast and there all the NVIDIA options for my card cause a lock-up that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace can't get me out of. I've already tried the Nvidia forum and will look back. Is there a way in Yast to get the generic NViDIa drivers back and work from there? Not sure if going into xf86config will help either. Should I put the old card back in and try something there? Don't want to reinstall SuSe 8.2 (though i could back-up my docs and do this)
OK, in the sax cdb (card data base) is a listing of all the cards sax recognizes. When on goes to the NVIDIA README and looks at the cards the drivers support then one finds the following:
GeForce FX 5200 0x0322 GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 0x0321
And in Sax on finds:
NVidia:0x0321 { 3DDriver = nvidia 3DProfile = nvidia Flag = 3D Extension = glx Driver = nv }
NVidia:0x0322 { 3DDriver = nvidia 3DProfile = nvidia Flag = 3D Extension = glx Driver = nv }
So it seems that your card is supported by sax. The questions are these however:
A) are you chosing the right vid card module from sax? Given that this is not explicitly labelled GeForceFX 5200, might you have better success with chosing the card labelled "0x0322" or "0x0321"?
B) is the listing in /var/lib/hardward/unique-keys causing a problem? This has been the case in the past with soundcards, and it may or may not be causing problems.
C) One might manually edit the XF86Config to change the labelled identifiers to the video card as such
#BoardName "GeForce3 Ti 200" BoardName "0x0322" Driver "nvidia" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "CursorShadowAlpha" "64" Option "CursorShadowXOffset" "4" Option "DigitalVibrance" "175" Option "CursorShadow" "1" Option "NvAGP" "3" Option "NoBandWidthTest" "1" Option "CursorShadowYOffset" "4" Option "NoLogo" "1" Screen 0 Option "Rotate" "off" VendorName "NVidia"
And is the module "GLX" designated in the XF86Config? as such:
Section "Module" Load "type1" Load "glx" *************************************** Load "v4l" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "dbe" ************ as well as this *********** Load "extmod ************ and this *****************
There are other parameters that are in conjunction with the way the the Xserver, video card/drivers, and monitors interact. Sometimes these don't play nice with each others. This has been my experience with problems between video card and monitors. I have had to in the past add options such as:
Option "UseEdidFreqs" "boolean" Option "IgnoreEDID" "boolean"
And
Option "NoDDC" "boolean"
This is due to failings in the NVIDIA drivers while "probing" the monitors.
There is also a no probe option, but it escapes me now. You might need to reconfig you monitor as well, lord knows I have had to do this before several times. Just as soon as the 3Ddiag and other checks indicate the drivers are installed and operating as they should it fails on the X start (similar to you problem) so I have to go back and config it all over making sure that the monitor is reconfiged as well.
HTH, Curtis.
-- Thom Nuzum (in DC)
Thom Nuzum wrote:
Thanks for this. Don't know if this was the best way. I just installed the default kernel and removed the Athlon one. did the Nvidia-install, enabled 3d and all works. Not sure if I should use the Athlon kernel or not though.
On Sunday 03 August 2003 15:09, Curtis Rey wrote:
On Saturday 02 August 2003 06:29 pm, Zach Smith wrote:
Don't know if you want to hear this but I tried "upgrading" to the 5200 and it did the same thing. I never could get it resolved so I ended up going back to the GeForce3 card. I hear the the 5900 has been used successfully with Linux in general but don't take my word on it. Good luck.
Zach
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Have you read what SuSE has on its site? Click on this and read what is said there- ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception.
Have you read what SuSE has on its site? Click on this and read what is said there-
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html
Thanks. I did do that though a little late. My option II or III would not work as I needed the kernel source which I failed to notice on the 3rd disk of personal 8.2. I tried downloading it, but it stalled always at 99%. So I put the original kernel in and used the nvidia-installer and enabled 3d: works great. I went back to the Athlon kernel now, but noticed no increase in performance. Also Tux racer no longer loads with the new card. Who cares though. Other 3d programs work. An excellent how to from SuSE (the above). My only complaint is that the Kernel Source is not listed in Yast software install anywhere for the personal version. Yet it is on the 3rd disk. That really sucks!
thom@cavtel.net wrote:
Have you read what SuSE has on its site? Click on this and read what is said there-
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html
Thanks. I did do that though a little late. My option II or III would not work as I needed the kernel source which I failed to notice on the 3rd disk of personal 8.2. I tried downloading it, but it stalled always at 99%. So I put the original kernel in and used the nvidia-installer and enabled 3d: works great. I went back to the Athlon kernel now, but noticed no increase in performance. Also Tux racer no longer loads with the new card. Who cares though. Other 3d programs work.
An excellent how to from SuSE (the above). My only complaint is that the Kernel Source is not listed in Yast software install anywhere for the personal version. Yet it is on the 3rd disk. That really sucks!
The source not listed, eh? Someone may confirm this or tell me that I am raving, but I thought the same thing occurred to me, and I am running the Professional version, when I to install the kernel source. It didnt' appear in the lost of available software, and I *think* I had to do a Search for it before it showed up - or something. I know that it is showing up in red lettering in the list of installed software now that it is installed. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception.
participants (6)
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Basil Chupin
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Curtis Rey
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Matthew Johnson
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Thom Nuzum
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thom@cavtel.net
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Zach Smith