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Windwalker

30 Jan 2003 30 Jan '03

10:53

Ive had SuSe for about 4 months now. I love it

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Im running version SuSe 8.0 personal edition. I have a major problem I need to fix with the printer Im running a Canon BCJ-4200 Printer I cant seem to get it to work correctly and have tryied about all I might add Im not "geek" so I need a simple way to get it to work. Upon printing it will start to print about a sentence, then stop and I have to hit the printer reset button. It will not complete the printing job. print looks fine on first sentence I need to know exactly how to set it up,, Ive tryied the YAst and it says not reconized... but if done manual it has the 4200 option.. It just dont work correctly Can somebody give me detailed info on how to get this printer running?? I really need it Thanks Mike

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Oskar Teran

30 Jan 30 Jan

16:58

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Windwalker wrote:

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Ive had SuSe for about 4 months now. I love it

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Im running version SuSe 8.0 personal edition. I have a major problem I need to fix with the printer Im running a Canon BCJ-4200 Printer I cant seem to get it to work correctly and have tryied about all I might add Im not "geek" so I need a simple way to get it to work. Upon printing it will start to print about a sentence, then stop and I have to hit the printer reset button. It will not complete the printing job. print looks fine on first sentence I need to know exactly how to set it up,, Ive tryied the YAst and it says not reconized... but if done manual it has the 4200 option.. It just dont work correctly Can somebody give me detailed info on how to get this printer running?? I really need it Thanks Mike

did you setup the printer using a parallel or usb cable?

Johnny Ernst Nielsen

1 Feb 1 Feb

07:34

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Good day Windwalker, Fredag den 31. januar 2003 18:05 kvad Windwalker:

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Im running version SuSe 8.0 personal edition. I have a major problem I need to fix with the printer Im running a Canon BCJ-4200 Printer I cant seem to get it to work correctly and have tryied about all I might add Im not "geek" so I need a simple way to get it to work. Upon printing it will start to print about a sentence, then stop and I have to hit the printer reset button. It will not complete the printing job. print looks fine on first sentence I need to know exactly how to set it up,, Ive tryied the YAst and it says not reconized... but if done manual it has the 4200 option.. It just dont work correctly Can somebody give me detailed info on how to get this printer running?? I really need it Thanks Mike

Nothing for sure, but I have two suggestions. a. If you know anyone with SuSE 8.1, try to take your printer to him and see if 8.1 does a better job. b. Try out TurboPrints printer driver. Canon BCJ-4200 is in the list of supported printers for the latest version 1.72. It is payware, but you can try it for free. This driver solved my mother's problem with her Canon S400. http://www.turboprint.de/english.html Good luck :o) Johnny :o)

Alexandr Malusek

18:08

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Windwalker writes:

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Im running a Canon BCJ-4200 Printer I cant seem to get it to work correctly and have tryied about all

I know nothing about this printer, I've just noticed Canon BJC4200 is supported by the commercial ESP Print Pro. If BCJ-4200 and BJC4200 are the same printer then you may want to search for BJC4200 on https://www.easysw.com/printpro/printers.php. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se

Carlos E. R.

2 Feb 2 Feb

13:49

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The 03.01.31 at 17:05, Windwalker wrote:

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Ive had SuSe for about 4 months now. I love it

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Im running version SuSe 8.0 personal edition. I have a major problem I need to fix with the printer Im running a Canon BCJ-4200 Printer

I have the 4000 myself, I think both use the same driver. The only real difference is that yours has photo-whatever capacity :-)

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I cant seem to get it to work correctly and have tryied about all I might add Im not "geek" so I need a simple way to get it to work. Upon printing it will start to print about a sentence, then stop and I have to hit the printer reset button. It will not complete the printing job. print looks fine on first sentence

Ugh. Just a second... is that a plain text file you are printing? If so, remember that Linux issues just a carriage return at the end of each line, whereas dos also issues a line feed . For some printers, this means that printing from Linux you get a very long line, outside of the page: you only see one line. This can be configured on the printer, with switches... but only the 4000 has them, not the 4200. You will need to print ascii as postscript, then.

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I need to know exactly how to set it up,, Ive tryied the YAst and it says not reconized... but if done manual it has the 4200 option.. It just dont work correctly

Just tell it, manually, what printer you have: it is listed, but not detected.

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Can somebody give me detailed info on how to get this printer running??

Well... I don't know how different is suse 8.0 from 8.1. I suppose you use cups; if so, configure it from the kde control center, or from the cups pseudo-web-page (http://localhost:631). Any of those methods is better than Yast, I think - at least, it was in my case. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Alexandr Malusek

3 Feb 3 Feb

10:07

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"Carlos E. R." writes:

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Just a second... is that a plain text file you are printing? If so, remember that Linux issues just a carriage return at the end of each line, whereas dos also issues a line feed.

A correction: Unix text files use the line feed (LF), DOS ones use the combination of carriage return and line feed (CR LF). -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se

Carlos E. R.

12:42

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The 03.02.03 at 11:07, Alexandr Malusek wrote:

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A correction: Unix text files use the line feed (LF), DOS ones use the combination of carriage return and line feed (CR LF).

True: I don't always remember which is the one unix uses. I always have wondered why unix does it that way :-? -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

zentara

20:37

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On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:42:37 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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The 03.02.03 at 11:07, Alexandr Malusek wrote:

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A correction: Unix text files use the line feed (LF), DOS ones use the combination of carriage return and line feed (CR LF).

True: I don't always remember which is the one unix uses. I always have wondered why unix does it that way :-?

I think it would be better to ask why Windows does it with CRLF? Mac uses CR, so why would Windows waste all those bits? -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation

jfweber＠bellsouth.net

22:04

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** Reply to message from zentara on Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:37:24 -0500

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I think it would be better to ask why Windows does it with CRLF? Mac uses CR, so why would Windows waste all those bits?

inertia, I suspect, back in the Great Darkness they hit on that method, and never ever looked back. IIRC, they never do .. it's one reason there was a thought during the Federal trial that some thought they might actually not know how to remove any parts of the OS , they don't really know what is in there , nor what it does.. Apparently there still are bits of text they would rather not have the Feds see. The rest of us don't matter , and if we tell people there are items or lines that says X isn't done til Y wont run .. well, we're just exaggerating or making it up .. or similar stuff. I ht ought it was odd when that bit of doggerel turned up in a book that was , for the most part complimentary to his Gatesness... ( Bill Gates Hard Drive ) written w/ some assistance of the Windows folk by two "Investigative Reporters" of the local paper. It's a funny read if you can locate it , "Warts and All" part consists of items recalling that the man doesn't maintain even the slightest modicum of hygiene ... and that he doesn't suffer fools , well, actually he doesn't suffer any sort of contradiction , so I'm not certain the last means anything in the real world. The rest is PR .. but it is often unintentionally funny. Unfortunately I finished it on one of the road trips, and I tend to just leave books where ever I finish them.. no point in lugging it round in the baggage. -- j afterthought: Who you callin' "argumentative", Bucko?

Graham Murray

6 Feb 6 Feb

06:53

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zentara writes:

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I think it would be better to ask why Windows does it with CRLF? Mac uses CR, so why would Windows waste all those bits?

Think back to the old teletypes and typewriters. CR moved the carriage back to column 1 and LF advanced the paper. So the computer had to send both. As it took longer for the carriage to move than for the paper to advance the CR was sent first.

Patrick Shanahan

17:13

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* Graham Murray [02-06-03 01:56]:

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zentara writes:

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I think it would be better to ask why Windows does it with CRLF? Mac uses CR, so why would Windows waste all those bits?

Think back to the old teletypes and typewriters. CR moved the carriage back to column 1 and LF advanced the paper. So the computer had to send both. As it took longer for the carriage to move than for the paper to advance the CR was sent first.

Because the reliability was so poor, we always send <cr><cr><lf>. Beware, probably 80% of the computer world does not realize that the computer's grandfather was a teletype machine. -- Patrick Shanahan http://wahoo.no-ip.org Registered Linux User #207535 icq#173753138 @ http://counter.li.org

Doug McGarrett

7 Feb 7 Feb

02:14

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I think I saw my first computer connection in about 1967. It was a teletype connection via audio modem (you laid the phone handset in a cradle that had a microphone and speaker in it) and the computer was in Texas, I think. (I'm in New York.) Probably the modem did about 128 BYTES per second, I don't remember, if I ever knew. But teletype machines were pretty slow, so who cared. The system would run BASIC and Fortran. I don't believe it could handle machine language over the phone. Does anyone remember Nancy Young? She was the NY sales rep from one of these time-shared companies, and she was a really pretty lady. Those were the days, however. Every engineer learned to write in one language or the other--Fortran was the school language for the younger guys, BASIC was the language the ones who never learned Fortran wrote in. Every batch of equations that needed to be solved more than once became a BASIC (Fortran) program. I still have a batch of them that I or someone else wrote, and I still use some of them. (I converted them from Teletype tape to more modern media in steps, as I remember, with an intermediate step being audio tape. I can't remember what kind of computer did this. It might have been an HP machine. Way before CPM.) [When CPM came along, I built a machine called "the Big Board" and had one of the first home computers. CPM worked just as well as DOS, but had somewhat different commands. The computer had a whole 64 KB of ram, just the same as the Atari, but it worked a bit differently. No video games. The Atari had a real operating system, unlike the Commodore, and it was mainly aimed at graphical apps to feed to a TV set, as was the Commodore. Very early games, but some of the Atari stuff was pretty sophisticated. There was one called "Eastern Front," I think it was, that let you be Germany fighting Russia in WWII.] It was a glorious time. Practically nobody writes any discrete software nowadays--everything is available in some form, already done. My Microstrip design software that I crudely wrote is done in fancy form on some kind of Windows system--not once but by 10 different software firms. The most anyone does anymore is to write for a spread-sheet. (A form I detest, BTW.) MathCad does everything else, if you can get thru the world's worst editor. (I can't.) Just a little memory trip. --doug At 12:13 02/06/2003 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Graham Murray [02-06-03 01:56]:

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zentara writes:

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I think it would be better to ask why Windows does it with CRLF? Mac uses CR, so why would Windows waste all those bits?

Think back to the old teletypes and typewriters. CR moved the carriage back to column 1 and LF advanced the paper. So the computer had to send both. As it took longer for the carriage to move than for the paper to advance the CR was sent first.

Because the reliability was so poor, we always send <cr><cr><lf>. Beware, probably 80% of the computer world does not realize that the computer's grandfather was a teletype machine. -- Patrick Shanahan http://wahoo.no-ip.org Registered Linux User #207535 icq#173753138 @ http://counter.li.org

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Carlos E. R.

6 Feb 6 Feb

20:06

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On 2003.02.03 21:37 zentara wrote:

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combination of carriage return and line feed (CR LF).

True: I don't always remember which is the one unix uses. I always have wondered why unix does it that way :-?

I think it would be better to ask why Windows does it with CRLF? Mac uses CR, so why would Windows waste all those bits?

Er... Windows does the same as plain Dos, which I suspect inherits that behaviour from CP/M -- I'm guessing about CP/M, but Dos did inherit a lot of things from that OS. In any case, Dos is older that Mac, isn't it? And, as Graham says, it is a combination used on printing machines, which allowed overprinting a character (undercase or boldcase, for example). On the console, it allowed programs using standard input to reuse the same line many times, and create simple progress info, like a text progress bar. I used that trick many times, I found it useful. True, it is one more byte every line... but that is not a very big deal. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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