Re: [SLE] SuSE 8.2 - Advanced Purchase???
I agree with that. I currently use red hat 7.3 at home and SuSE 8.1 at work. I find it totally offensive that Red Hat has decided to make a jump from 8.0 to 9.0 right away. Not only that, but I can find no mention of improvements from 8.0 to 9.0 on their web site even though they have a link to the 2 methods of purchasing 9.0. I personally hate blue curve so I decided to stick with 7.3. The anti-aliased fonts are nice but not a necessity. I just hope that SuSE does not decide to jump on the bandwagon and decide to do the same thing that red hat has done with minor version changes. ~~Nick --- On Thu 03/27, David Herman < mesamoo115@attbi.com > wrote: From: David Herman [mailto: mesamoo115@attbi.com] To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:36:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 8.2 - Advanced Purchase??? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>On Thursday 27 March 2003 04:55 pm, rex wrote:<br>- ---------snip----------<br>> I'm not privy to the cost breakdown, but, IMO, SuSE is missing a<br>> chance to have a higher margin from the people who want the CDs/DVDs,<br>> but no paper manuals or support. At $49, most people will pay the<br>> extra for the manuals.<br><br>I agree, I usually buy 1 full professional version in each full point <br>upgrade, (7.2, 8.1), and then try to stay updated through the internet.<br><br>I appreciate the manuals, although I don't always get all the way <br>through them and even if they occasionally fail me.<br><br>The point is that I would probably be willing to purchase an upgrade dvd <br>for around $20 if it could actually be used to upgrade a previous <br>version, and I'd still purchase my regular full point upgrade w/ <br>manuals for reference. As it is SuSE is losing the opportunity to get <br>$40 to $60 out of me between full versions.<br><br>Of course if they pull a dead rat and start calling each upgrade a full <br>point then I reserve the right to change my mind.<br><br><br>See ya<br>- -- <br>dh<br>Don't shop at GoogleGear.com!<br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)<br><br>iD8DBQE+g6cyBwgxlylUsJARAhKvAJ0QoqQkdmfut3cO1xjtRgYH2gOoIgCbBHeA<br>RWVKrtaVNk0OKwXGCCdkrZ8=<br>=qsHu<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br><br>--<br>Check the headers for your unsubscription address<br>For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com<br>Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com<br>Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com<br><br><br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Nicholas just had to get this off his chest:
I agree with that. I currently use red hat 7.3 at home and
[..]
--- On Thu 03/27, David Herman < mesamoo115@attbi.com > wrote: From: David Herman [mailto: mesamoo115@attbi.com] To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:36:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 8.2 - Advanced Purchase???
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>On Thursday 27 March 2003 04:55 pm, rex wrote:<br>- ---------snip----------<br>> I'm not privy to the cost breakdown, but, IMO, SuSE is missing a<br>> [..]
What the h*ll was this crap David sent (the format, not the contents)? Mutt's (1.4.1i) pager went into an endless loop trying to make some sense of it, taking 100% CPU load to get it done. Are there MUA's that can actually read this? Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. SuSE 8.0 x86 Kernel k_Athlon 2.4.19-4GB See headers for PGP/GPG info.
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Anders just had to get this off his chest:
On Friday 28 March 2003 15:53, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Are there MUA's that can actually read this?
kmail reads it, though of course html tags in mail is never a nice thing
I found out that the mangled PGP sign line is the culprit. Trying to read a line like: "-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br>" (without the quotes), will send Mutt here in an endless loop, trying to make sense of the PGP stuff presumably. I filed a bugreport to mutt-dev Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. SuSE 8.0 x86 Kernel k_Athlon 2.4.19-4GB See headers for PGP/GPG info.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 28 March 2003 06:53 am, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Nicholas just had to get this off his chest:
I agree with that. I currently use red hat 7.3 at home and
[..]
--- On Thu 03/27, David Herman < mesamoo115@attbi.com > wrote: From: David Herman [mailto: mesamoo115@attbi.com] To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:36:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 8.2 - Advanced Purchase???
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>On Thursday 27 March 2003 04:55 pm, rex wrote:<br>- ---------snip----------<br>> I'm not privy to the cost breakdown, but, IMO, SuSE is missing a<br>>
[..]
What the h*ll was this crap David sent (the format, not the contents)? Mutt's (1.4.1i) pager went into an endless loop trying to make some sense of it, taking 100% CPU load to get it done. Are there MUA's that can actually read this?
As far as I know my mails have been coming through as always, I haven't made any changes in the last week. The message you quote is actually from a reply to one of my mails, not my original mail. Let me know if I'm missing something here. see ya - -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+hGs2BwgxlylUsJARAviyAJ9aNxYXr8qF0fpWB4596THmeYQSNgCdGMA2 AEJdKrQ6gHSfz6gkRsdn9c4= =MFsD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, David just had to get this off his chest:
On Friday 28 March 2003 06:53 am, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Nicholas just had to get this off his chest:
I agree with that. I currently use red hat 7.3 at home and
[..]
--- On Thu 03/27, David Herman < mesamoo115@attbi.com > wrote: From: David Herman [mailto: mesamoo115@attbi.com] To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:36:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 8.2 - Advanced Purchase???
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>On Thursday 27 March 2003 04:55 pm, rex wrote:<br>- ---------snip----------<br>> I'm not privy to the cost breakdown, but, IMO, SuSE is missing a<br>>
[..]
What the h*ll was this crap David sent (the format, not the contents)? Mutt's (1.4.1i) pager went into an endless loop trying to make some sense of it, taking 100% CPU load to get it done. Are there MUA's that can actually read this?
As far as I know my mails have been coming through as always, I haven't made any changes in the last week. The message you quote is actually from a reply to one of my mails, not my original mail. Let me know if I'm missing something here.
You're right David, it was not your configuration, it is exite.com that Nicholas uses that fscked your email. Sorry, I guess I'm not used to software that deliberately munges content of email to make it "look better", specially if that content is not even written by the replier.. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. SuSE 8.0 x86 Kernel k_Athlon 2.4.19-4GB See headers for PGP/GPG info.
* Theo v. Werkhoven; <twe-suse.e@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl> on 28 Mar, 2003 wrote:
You're right David, it was not your configuration, it is exite.com that Nicholas uses that fscked your email. Sorry, I guess I'm not used to software that deliberately munges content of email to make it "look better", specially if that content is not even written by the replier..
Just for the record "mutt 1.4i" has no problems reading that offending mail no loops no 100 % CPU etc on this end so interesting -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx
* Togan Muftuoglu <toganm@dinamizm.com> [03-28-03 12:04]:
* Theo v. Werkhoven; <twe-suse.e@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl> on 28 Mar, 2003 wrote:
You're right David, it was not your configuration, it is exite.com that Nicholas uses that fscked your email. Sorry, I guess I'm not used to software that deliberately munges content of email to make it "look better", specially if that content is not even written by the replier..
Just for the record "mutt 1.4i" has no problems reading that offending mail no loops no 100 % CPU etc on this end so interesting
mutt 1.5.4i has no problem, either. -- Patrick Shanahan Please avoid TOFU and trim >quotes< http://wahoo.no-ip.org Registered Linux User #207535 icq#173753138 @ http://counter.li.org Linux, a continuous *learning* experience
Patrick Shanahan <WideGlide@MyRealBox.com> [2003-03-28 09:45]:
* Togan Muftuoglu <toganm@dinamizm.com> [03-28-03 12:04]:
Just for the record "mutt 1.4i" has no problems reading that offending mail no loops no 100 % CPU etc on this end so interesting
mutt 1.5.4i has no problem, either.
Ditto here with mutt 1.4i, but Theo uses GPG and I use PGP 6.5.8. I wonder if it's GPG that is having a problem with the farkled line? -rex -- Moebius strippers never show you their back side.
* rex; <rex@nosyntax.net> on 28 Mar, 2003 wrote:
Ditto here with mutt 1.4i, but Theo uses GPG and I use PGP 6.5.8. I wonder if it's GPG that is having a problem with the farkled line?
Negative GPG is used here -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Togan just had to get this off his chest:
* rex; <rex@nosyntax.net> on 28 Mar, 2003 wrote:
Ditto here with mutt 1.4i, but Theo uses GPG and I use PGP 6.5.8. I wonder if it's GPG that is having a problem with the farkled line?
Negative GPG is used here
Found it, my bad. The other day I entered a message-hook into my muttrc to deal with traditionally signed PGP mails (or so I thought). "message-hook '!~g !~G ~b "^-----BEGIN PGP (SIGNED )?MESSAGE"' 'exec check-traditional-pgp'" This line caused my trouble. Apparently I didn't check it before implementing.. Dumb. Thanks all. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. SuSE 8.0 x86 Kernel k_Athlon 2.4.19-4GB See headers for PGP/GPG info.
participants (7)
-
Anders Johansson -
David Herman -
Nicholas Parsons -
Patrick Shanahan -
rex -
Theo v. Werkhoven -
Togan Muftuoglu