[OT] SuSE may merge with TurboLinux
On Friday 13 June 2003 17:48, gary wrote:
http://www.pcw.co.uk/News/1141566
-- Gary
Ok, translation to the article as I read it. SuSE and Tubro have divergent market areas and locales. The share a common interest and development cycle. SCO "wants" to continue with the group but isn't actively contributing to UL right now, and will only get back into the game after the dust has settled. Therefore Seibt said that there's no further need to consider taking action against SCO to get them to leave or seperate from UL. So, lets see. Merger goes successfully with TurboLinux and SuSE. SuSE gets a broader base of operations, can more effectively compete with RH, can utilze the resources and distribution channels of these two companies and inturn become truly a global market force (isn't India right next to Asia - I do believe so!). Now once this has settled who the hell needs SCO? But what does SCO need. SCO (read McBride) may be under the impression that they could benefit from this. However, it's my belief that SuSE is just shoring up its resource and market base before Kulling SCO from the group - it's always quiet before the storm. SCO had a large resource in this arena IIRC but have flounder the last couple of years (shock shock). So, SuSE and TurboLinux become one big company. SCO continues to flounder and attempts to pull more shinanigans along the way - further digging their own grave and I'll bet eventually trying to drag whoever down with them. SuSE has no further need of SCO and is more in line with IBM (hmmmm, where did Seibt used to work?). SCO has less in line with IBM. So, tell me. If you were SuSE who would you rather buddy up to - SCO or IBM? It's of course a rhetorical question. This is just smart business moves before severing ties and the likely nastiness to follow (more sour grapes expected from you know who). Just MHO. Curtis.
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 21:16, Curtis Rey wrote:
On Friday 13 June 2003 17:48, gary wrote:
http://www.pcw.co.uk/News/1141566
-- Gary
Ok, translation to the article as I read it. SuSE and Tubro have divergent market areas and locales. The share a common interest and development cycle.
SCO "wants" to continue with the group but isn't actively contributing to UL right now, and will only get back into the game after the dust has settled. Therefore Seibt said that there's no further need to consider taking action against SCO to get them to leave or seperate from UL.
So, lets see. Merger goes successfully with TurboLinux and SuSE. SuSE gets a broader base of operations, can more effectively compete with RH, can utilze the resources and distribution channels of these two companies and inturn become truly a global market force (isn't India right next to Asia - I do believe so!).
Now once this has settled who the hell needs SCO? But what does SCO need. SCO (read McBride) may be under the impression that they could benefit from this. However, it's my belief that SuSE is just shoring up its resource and market base before Kulling SCO from the group - it's always quiet before the storm. SCO had a large resource in this arena IIRC but have flounder the last couple of years (shock shock).
So, SuSE and TurboLinux become one big company. SCO continues to flounder and attempts to pull more shinanigans along the way - further digging their own grave and I'll bet eventually trying to drag whoever down with them.
SuSE has no further need of SCO and is more in line with IBM (hmmmm, where did Seibt used to work?). SCO has less in line with IBM. So, tell me. If you were SuSE who would you rather buddy up to - SCO or IBM? It's of course a rhetorical question. This is just smart business moves before severing ties and the likely nastiness to follow (more sour grapes expected from you know who).
Just MHO. Curtis.
Yeah, but what would the name of the company be? "TurboSuSE, powered by a hundred Chameleon's"? Wonder if SCO really began threatening to sue because they were slowly being pushed to the sidelines and to irrevelence? And perhaps with a little help from MSFT who are struggling against Linux, especially at the server level. Matt
On Friday 13 June 2003 19:30, Matthew Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 21:16, Curtis Rey wrote:
On Friday 13 June 2003 17:48, gary wrote:
http://www.pcw.co.uk/News/1141566
-- Gary
Ok, translation to the article as I read it. SuSE and Tubro have divergent market areas and locales. The share a common interest and development cycle.
SCO "wants" to continue with the group but isn't actively contributing to UL right now, and will only get back into the game after the dust has settled. Therefore Seibt said that there's no further need to consider taking action against SCO to get them to leave or seperate from UL.
So, lets see. Merger goes successfully with TurboLinux and SuSE. SuSE gets a broader base of operations, can more effectively compete with RH, can utilze the resources and distribution channels of these two companies and inturn become truly a global market force (isn't India right next to Asia - I do believe so!).
Now once this has settled who the hell needs SCO? But what does SCO need. SCO (read McBride) may be under the impression that they could benefit from this. However, it's my belief that SuSE is just shoring up its resource and market base before Kulling SCO from the group - it's always quiet before the storm. SCO had a large resource in this arena IIRC but have flounder the last couple of years (shock shock).
So, SuSE and TurboLinux become one big company. SCO continues to flounder and attempts to pull more shinanigans along the way - further digging their own grave and I'll bet eventually trying to drag whoever down with them.
SuSE has no further need of SCO and is more in line with IBM (hmmmm, where did Seibt used to work?). SCO has less in line with IBM. So, tell me. If you were SuSE who would you rather buddy up to - SCO or IBM? It's of course a rhetorical question. This is just smart business moves before severing ties and the likely nastiness to follow (more sour grapes expected from you know who).
Just MHO. Curtis.
Yeah, but what would the name of the company be? "TurboSuSE, powered by a hundred Chameleon's"?
Wonder if SCO really began threatening to sue because they were slowly being pushed to the sidelines and to irrevelence? And perhaps with a little help from MSFT who are struggling against Linux, especially at the server level.
Matt
I just took a quick peak at LJ's article about SCO Linux 4. The critique said it had some very nice features but also fell behind in development and securtiy, as well as generally being behind the times in comparision to other Linux offerings. So, your basically right AFAITC. Unix is going away and SCO linux is mediocre at best. In this business climate and market space mediocre translates to soon to be dead - and McBride and company know it. So, Unix revenues fading into the sunset, Linux revenues faltering = SCO is going to die a slow death and McBride was made captain of a ship doomed to sink. Ha, ha! I see Ransom Love flew the coup just in time - lol. So who's the real dupe McBride via Ransom, McBride via IBM, McBride via Unix obsolesence, Or McBride via Linux maturity? I vote for all off the above ---- It's McBride that's the real dupe anyway you look at it. Cheers, Curtis.
God I hope they don't merge. I live in Japan and Turbo I can't sell against Red Hat but I can sell SuSE. If they merge now I have to deal with Turbo and that means for my company we will drop SuSE and concentrate on Red Hat. I love SuSE, and I really hope this is some kind of joke.
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 08:10, David Blomber wrote:
God I hope they don't merge. I live in Japan and Turbo I can't sell against Red Hat but I can sell SuSE. If they merge now I have to deal with Turbo and that means for my company we will drop SuSE and concentrate on Red Hat. I love SuSE, and I really hope this is some kind of joke.
Perhaps SuSE would buy out TurboLinux and gain access to that market...Perhaps. Only people who really know will not say anything until something is more official happens. Matt
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