[opensuse] hideous fonts on 12.1
In GNOME applications run in KDE, the fonts are simply terrible. They are far too big and just look so bad. This includes apps such as firefox and evolution. Probably others. But those are the ones I regularly use. Where is the correct place to say that GNOME apps should use KDE fonts, or even just which fonts they should use? In the KDE Personal Settings app I see where to set this for GTK apps. In that menu it says to set GNOME fonts in the GNOME configuration tools. I don't think it is gconftool-2. And I do not see a reference to a font anywhere in gnome-control-center. So, where to configure this for these apps running in KDE? I did not install GNOME as a whole. Only the apps I use. Maybe that is it? -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
In GNOME applications run in KDE, the fonts are simply terrible. They are far too big and just look so bad. This includes apps such as firefox and evolution. Probably others. But those are the ones I regularly use.
Where is the correct place to say that GNOME apps should use KDE fonts, or even just which fonts they should use? In the KDE Personal Settings app I see where to set this for GTK apps. In that menu it says to set GNOME fonts in the GNOME configuration tools. I don't think it is gconftool-2. And I do not see a reference to a font anywhere in gnome-control-center. So, where to configure this for these apps running in KDE? I did not install GNOME as a whole. Only the apps I use. Maybe that is it?
-- Roger Oberholtzer In the KDE System Setting thingy. Under Application appearance there is a GTK
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 09:15:47 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote: thingy. You can set it to use KDE fonts. If its all "hideous" though, it sounds to me like you may have a bigger problem. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 11:20 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
In GNOME applications run in KDE, the fonts are simply terrible. They are far too big and just look so bad. This includes apps such as firefox and evolution. Probably others. But those are the ones I regularly use.
Where is the correct place to say that GNOME apps should use KDE fonts, or even just which fonts they should use? In the KDE Personal Settings app I see where to set this for GTK apps. In that menu it says to set GNOME fonts in the GNOME configuration tools. I don't think it is gconftool-2. And I do not see a reference to a font anywhere in gnome-control-center. So, where to configure this for these apps running in KDE? I did not install GNOME as a whole. Only the apps I use. Maybe that is it?
-- Roger Oberholtzer In the KDE System Setting thingy. Under Application appearance there is a GTK
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 09:15:47 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote: thingy. You can set it to use KDE fonts. If its all "hideous" though, it sounds to me like you may have a bigger problem.
KDE desktop, panel and apps look great. It is GNOME that seeks to suffer. In evolution, there is a control to change the font in the message text, and that works as expected. The rest of the app fonts are, apparently, not specified in the app. I guess they are expected to be set globally so the apps share a common look and feel. Same with firefox. And LibreOffice, I now see. I did set the KDE flag for GTK apps to use KDE fonts. That seems to have no effect here. As I wrote, that same menu says that GNOME apps are not effected by this and need to be set in the GNOME configuration program. GTK != GNOME in this aspect, I guess. I am trying to determine which app that may be used to set these fonts.
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On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 09:43:39 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 11:20 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 09:15:47 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
In GNOME applications run in KDE, the fonts are simply terrible. They are far too big and just look so bad. This includes apps such as firefox and evolution. Probably others. But those are the ones I regularly use.
Where is the correct place to say that GNOME apps should use KDE fonts, or even just which fonts they should use? In the KDE Personal Settings app I see where to set this for GTK apps. In that menu it says to set GNOME fonts in the GNOME configuration tools. I don't think it is gconftool-2. And I do not see a reference to a font anywhere in gnome-control-center. So, where to configure this for these apps running in KDE? I did not install GNOME as a whole. Only the apps I use. Maybe that is it?
-- Roger Oberholtzer
In the KDE System Setting thingy. Under Application appearance there is a GTK thingy. You can set it to use KDE fonts. If its all "hideous" though, it sounds to me like you may have a bigger problem.
KDE desktop, panel and apps look great. It is GNOME that seeks to suffer. In evolution, there is a control to change the font in the message text, and that works as expected. The rest of the app fonts are, apparently, not specified in the app. I guess they are expected to be set globally so the apps share a common look and feel. Same with firefox. And LibreOffice, I now see.
I did set the KDE flag for GTK apps to use KDE fonts. That seems to have no effect here. As I wrote, that same menu says that GNOME apps are not effected by this and need to be set in the GNOME configuration program. GTK != GNOME in this aspect, I guess. I am trying to determine which app that may be used to set these fonts. I ran into this same problem. Its from GTk3 apps. THey theme differently and will not accept the KDE themeing or normal GTK2. There is a package somewhere... called oxygen-gtk3 if I recall that fixes this. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 11:51 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
I ran into this same problem. Its from GTk3 apps. THey theme differently and will not accept the KDE themeing or normal GTK2. There is a package somewhere... called oxygen-gtk3 if I recall that fixes this.
I have oxygen-gtk installed. I don't see one for gtk3. Having the theme installed is probably not enough. I would imagine you have to tell that it should be used. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:22:06 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 11:51 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
I ran into this same problem. Its from GTk3 apps. THey theme differently and will not accept the KDE themeing or normal GTK2. There is a package somewhere... called oxygen-gtk3 if I recall that fixes this.
I have oxygen-gtk installed. I don't see one for gtk3. Having the theme installed is probably not enough. I would imagine you have to tell that it should be used.
-- Roger Oberholtzer Right, check in OBS for it. Ah, found it! http://ftp.utexas.edu/opensuse/repositories/home:/swyear/openSUSE_12.1/i586/... gtk3-1.1.50.git20111119-23.1.i586.rpm
Go into /etc/gtk-3.0/ and edit settings.ini There is a line specifying theme, set it to oxygen-gtk gtk-theme-name = oxygen-gtk -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
Right, check in OBS for it. Ah, found it! http://ftp.utexas.edu/opensuse/repositories/home:/swyear/openSUSE_12.1/i586/... gtk3-1.1.50.git20111119-23.1.i586.rpm
Go into /etc/gtk-3.0/ and edit settings.ini There is a line specifying theme, set it to oxygen-gtk gtk-theme-name = oxygen-gtk
I installed this and did the edit. No difference. I also tried calling it oxygen-gtk3 one time, just in case. No difference in evolution/ I would imagine it is just to restart the application, right? Not log out/in again? I will of course try that now. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:08:15 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
Right, check in OBS for it. Ah, found it! http://ftp.utexas.edu/opensuse/repositories/home:/swyear/openSUSE_12.1/i 586/oxygen- gtk3-1.1.50.git20111119-23.1.i586.rpm
Go into /etc/gtk-3.0/ and edit settings.ini There is a line specifying theme, set it to oxygen-gtk gtk-theme-name = oxygen-gtk
I installed this and did the edit. No difference. I also tried calling it oxygen-gtk3 one time, just in case. No difference in evolution/
I would imagine it is just to restart the application, right? Not log out/in again? I will of course try that now.
-- Roger Oberholtzer Seems odd that it wouldn't work. Make sure GTK is set to oxygen-gtk under the Application Appearance under System Settings. It totally worked for me. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 14:58 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:08:15 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
Right, check in OBS for it. Ah, found it! http://ftp.utexas.edu/opensuse/repositories/home:/swyear/openSUSE_12.1/i 586/oxygen- gtk3-1.1.50.git20111119-23.1.i586.rpm
Go into /etc/gtk-3.0/ and edit settings.ini There is a line specifying theme, set it to oxygen-gtk gtk-theme-name = oxygen-gtk
I installed this and did the edit. No difference. I also tried calling it oxygen-gtk3 one time, just in case. No difference in evolution/
I would imagine it is just to restart the application, right? Not log out/in again? I will of course try that now.
-- Roger Oberholtzer Seems odd that it wouldn't work. Make sure GTK is set to oxygen-gtk under the Application Appearance under System Settings. It totally worked for me.
I ran strace on firefox, and I see it accessing the gtk2 (not gtk3) oxygen-gtk theme. But it looks crappy. Since oxygen-gtk has been installed from the start, could it be the problem? Perhaps it does not like my 1920x1200 display, run with the current nvidia proprietary driver? Just for the h of it, is there another theme for GTK-under-KDE that I could try to see if there is a difference. In case it may matter, this is a clean 12.1 install, with a new user starting from scratch. Nothing is from a previous install.
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Perhaps it does not like my 1920x1200 display, run with the current nvidia proprietary driver?
Just for the h of it, is there another theme for GTK-under-KDE that I could try to see if there is a difference.
I didn't like the fonts with the custom nvidia driver. They seem to be rendered totally differently when compared to the nouveau driver. Try removing the nvidia driver and going to nouveau and see if you like that better. HTH L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:09:38 +0530, lynn <lynn@steve-ss.com> wrote:
I didn't like the fonts with the custom nvidia driver. They seem to be rendered totally differently when compared to the nouveau driver. Try removing the nvidia driver and going to nouveau and see if you like that better.
strange, for me it's the other way around. i was using nouveau, which was working ok for me for the first time after installing 12.1., incl. 3D acceleration. eventually i installed nvidia though, and find everything much clearer & sharper with the proprietary drvier. perhaps just a question of taste... -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 12:39 +0100, lynn wrote:
Perhaps it does not like my 1920x1200 display, run with the current nvidia proprietary driver?
Just for the h of it, is there another theme for GTK-under-KDE that I could try to see if there is a difference.
I didn't like the fonts with the custom nvidia driver. They seem to be rendered totally differently when compared to the nouveau driver. Try removing the nvidia driver and going to nouveau and see if you like that better.
I think there may be something here. IIRC, the fonts looked better with the nouveau driver. But I am not 100% sure. The question is why it is only GNOME fonts that have changed? The KDE fonts appear unchanged after the nvidia install. I will experiment with X drivers this evening and see what I get. Probably a whole bunch of new issues when I start switching between the drivers... Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/11/11 13:19, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 12:39 +0100, lynn wrote:
Perhaps it does not like my 1920x1200 display, run with the current nvidia proprietary driver?
Just for the h of it, is there another theme for GTK-under-KDE that I could try to see if there is a difference.
I didn't like the fonts with the custom nvidia driver. They seem to be rendered totally differently when compared to the nouveau driver. Try removing the nvidia driver and going to nouveau and see if you like that better.
I think there may be something here. IIRC, the fonts looked better with the nouveau driver. But I am not 100% sure.
I think it's a personal taste. The nouveau fonts are simple. The nvidia fonts look too 'fussy' for my liking. The nouveau driver is also faster for me. Moving windows around on the nvidia left holes in the background where it had moved from. Also I have a very cheepo onboard nvidia chip which doesn't help. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 13:40 +0100, lynn wrote:
On 24/11/11 13:19, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 12:39 +0100, lynn wrote:
Perhaps it does not like my 1920x1200 display, run with the current nvidia proprietary driver?
Just for the h of it, is there another theme for GTK-under-KDE that I could try to see if there is a difference.
I didn't like the fonts with the custom nvidia driver. They seem to be rendered totally differently when compared to the nouveau driver. Try removing the nvidia driver and going to nouveau and see if you like that better.
I think there may be something here. IIRC, the fonts looked better with the nouveau driver. But I am not 100% sure.
I think it's a personal taste. The nouveau fonts are simple. The nvidia fonts look too 'fussy' for my liking. The nouveau driver is also faster for me. Moving windows around on the nvidia left holes in the background where it had moved from. Also I have a very cheepo onboard nvidia chip which doesn't help.
I suspect that the nvidia driver does less with older chips, leaving more work for the CPU. My chipset is rather new. I think the nvidia driver has better performance. The ugly fonts make apps look like old X apps with far too big fonts that are bold and are simply aesthetically very out of proportion. It can take an inch to house the top menu and a tool bar. That is twice the size of how KDE apps are doing this. In evolution, the text in the list of message is so big that I cannot see reasonable length sender and subject strings. On a 1920x1200 screen. In kmail I can see what I would expect. All I want is to be able to tell these application which fonts to use!
L x
Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, November 24, 2011 03:56:24 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 13:40 +0100, lynn wrote:
On 24/11/11 13:19, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 12:39 +0100, lynn wrote:
Perhaps it does not like my 1920x1200 display, run with the current nvidia proprietary driver?
Just for the h of it, is there another theme for GTK-under-KDE that I could try to see if there is a difference.
I didn't like the fonts with the custom nvidia driver. They seem to be rendered totally differently when compared to the nouveau driver. Try removing the nvidia driver and going to nouveau and see if you like that better.
I think there may be something here. IIRC, the fonts looked better with the nouveau driver. But I am not 100% sure.
I think it's a personal taste. The nouveau fonts are simple. The nvidia fonts look too 'fussy' for my liking. The nouveau driver is also faster for me. Moving windows around on the nvidia left holes in the background where it had moved from. Also I have a very cheepo onboard nvidia chip which doesn't help.
I suspect that the nvidia driver does less with older chips, leaving more work for the CPU. My chipset is rather new. I think the nvidia driver has better performance.
The ugly fonts make apps look like old X apps with far too big fonts that are bold and are simply aesthetically very out of proportion. It can take an inch to house the top menu and a tool bar. That is twice the size of how KDE apps are doing this. In evolution, the text in the list of message is so big that I cannot see reasonable length sender and subject strings. On a 1920x1200 screen. In kmail I can see what I would expect.
All I want is to be able to tell these application which fonts to use!
L x
Yours sincerely,
Roger Oberholtzer
OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST
Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________
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On Thursday, November 24, 2011 08:03:59 AM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:08:15 PM Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
Right, check in OBS for it. Ah, found it! http://ftp.utexas.edu/opensuse/repositories/home:/swyear/openSUS E_12.1/i 586/oxygen- gtk3-1.1.50.git20111119-23.1.i586.rpm
Go into /etc/gtk-3.0/ and edit settings.ini There is a line specifying theme, set it to oxygen-gtk gtk-theme-name = oxygen-gtk
I installed this and did the edit. No difference. I also tried calling it oxygen-gtk3 one time, just in case. No difference in evolution/
I would imagine it is just to restart the application, right? Not log out/in again? I will of course try that now.
-- Roger Oberholtzer
Seems odd that it wouldn't work. Make sure GTK is set to oxygen-gtk under the Application Appearance under System Settings. It totally worked for me. I ran strace on firefox, and I see it accessing the gtk2 (not gtk3) oxygen-gtk theme. But it looks crappy. Since oxygen-gtk has been installed from the start, could it be the problem? Perhaps it does not
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 14:58 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote: like my 1920x1200 display, run with the current nvidia proprietary driver?
Just for the h of it, is there another theme for GTK-under-KDE that I could try to see if there is a difference.
In case it may matter, this is a clean 12.1 install, with a new user starting from scratch. Nothing is from a previous install.
Yours sincerely,
Roger Oberholtzer
OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST
Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________
Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se Firefox is supposed to use gtk2. Yes theres another cross toolkit theme calle QtCUrve. You can also use gtk2 themes to sking KDE. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 22:22 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 11:51 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
I ran into this same problem. Its from GTk3 apps. THey theme differently and will not accept the KDE themeing or normal GTK2. There is a package somewhere... called oxygen-gtk3 if I recall that fixes this.
I have oxygen-gtk installed. I don't see one for gtk3. Having the theme installed is probably not enough. I would imagine you have to tell that it should be used.
I see this in $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4: # This file was written by KDE # You can edit it in the KDE control center, under "GTK Styles and Fonts" include "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" include "/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" style "user-font" { font_name="Sans Serif" } widget_class "*" style "user-font" gtk-theme-name="oxygen-gtk" gtk-font-name="Sans Serif 9" This looks like what I have set in the KDE menu. It does not effect the apps I have reported.
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Perhaps beside the point, but the first thing I check when I have issues with fonts is the DPI for fonts (in the system configuration for KDE: Application Appearance / Fonts / Force fonts DPI ) force it to 96 DPI if that's not done yet, perhaps that will help Emmanuel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/29/2011 09:20 AM, Emmanuel Briot wrote:
force it to 96 DPI if that's not done yet, perhaps that will help> Emmanuel
Thanks. That ended my misery on KDE :-) -- <b>Swapnil Bhartiya</b><br> Editor: Muktware.com<br> Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternatives<br> Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktware<br> Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 09:44:02 AM Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
On 11/29/2011 09:20 AM, Emmanuel Briot wrote:
force it to 96 DPI if that's not done yet, perhaps that will help> Emmanuel
Thanks. That ended my misery on KDE :-) May have been related to nVIdia. In the past versions I always had to force DPI to get things pretty again. Haven't had to do that in 12.1 though. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 09:20 +0100, Emmanuel Briot wrote:
Perhaps beside the point, but the first thing I check when I have issues with fonts is the DPI for fonts (in the system configuration for KDE:
Application Appearance / Fonts / Force fonts DPI
)
force it to 96 DPI if that's not done yet, perhaps that will help
I will see if this helps. But will GTK apps use this as well?
Emmanuel
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On 11/29/2011 09:59 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
force it to 96 DPI if that's not done yet, perhaps that will help
I will see if this helps. But will GTK apps use this as well?
I tested and and yes, GTK apps are using it (that's where the issue was -- Thunderbird and Firefox, both now look great). Swapnil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 29/11/11 20:02, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
On 11/29/2011 09:59 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
force it to 96 DPI if that's not done yet, perhaps that will help
I will see if this helps. But will GTK apps use this as well?
I tested and and yes, GTK apps are using it (that's where the issue was -- Thunderbird and Firefox, both now look great).
Swapnil
There is also one other factor to keep in mind: there are fonts designed specially for monitor display and fonts designed for printing. Verdana is one such font for monitor display; I cannot remember others - look up wikipedia re fonts. BC -- Diapers and politicians should be changed often; both for the same reason. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 09:20 +0100, Emmanuel Briot wrote:
Perhaps beside the point, but the first thing I check when I have issues with fonts is the DPI for fonts (in the system configuration for KDE:
Application Appearance / Fonts / Force fonts DPI
)
force it to 96 DPI if that's not done yet, perhaps that will help
Yes! Now I am a happy camper. It was my only real complaint in 12.1. The choices were 'Disabled', '96' or '120'. It was set to 'Disabled'. When I set it to 96, things improved significantly. xdpyinfo reports this: resolution: 135x137 dots per inch So I may play with this a bit. But as it is, I am happy. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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