On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:23:54 -0800 (PST), Eric Pierce wrote:

The mouse is a USB mouse with a scroll wheel if that matters.

... "which" mouse (PS - i HATE usb) -- /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\ \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" /// "Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has landed." - Neil Armstrong

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:55:50 -0500, BandiPat wrote:

Might I suggest something, if you haven't already tried it, why don't you do a fresh install of SuSE to see if you can clear up this problem?

... unfortunately, i disagree with this statement. i think we can get this fixed with a little more effort. let me re-review all the posts and think about it a little more :) -- /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\ \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" /// Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you.

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:29:20 -0500, BandiPat wrote:

I guess you could surf your way there after traveling on your motorcycle and sky dive right to his location? :-p

... damb - that sounds like an idea i can agree with :)) -- /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\ \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" /// If today is the first day of the rest of your life, what the hell was yesterday?

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:28:19 -0500, BandiPat wrote:

Wait a couple of days for the snow/ice to melt here and I'll see if the old 2 wheeler still has battery charge left and just join you there! ;o)

from NOAA: Today. Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. North winds 5 to 10 mph becoming south. ... needless to say, i'll be out there in about an hour or so :) -- /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\ \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///

I tried that once. I'm pretty sure it didn't make the situation any better (ie., X still crashed after 20-30 seconds. But I'll try it again. Thanks, Eric P. --- Alexandr Malusek wrote:

Eric Pierce writes:

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The install went fine. However, X will load up and freeze under a minute. I can swirl around the mouse for 10-20 seconds then everything freezes up. ... My video card is a NVidia TNT2 32MB / AGP. It more or less worked find with SuSE 8.2.

I think the XFree86's nv driver is the default in SUSE 9.0. You can download and try the Nvidia's binary driver.

IMHO problems like this should also be reported to SUSE.

-- A.M.

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'vesa' in place of 'nv' did the trick! (Note to self... try 'aa' in there someday ;) Sax2 still crashed - it uses 'nv' as the default for my card (regardless of what's in XF86Config), however, after a little fumbling around, I found there exists another Sax2 called 'sax2-vesa'. It simply appears to be sax2 in vesa mode. Otherwise, it's the same as normal Sax2. I could then enable NVidia's 3D acceleration. Who suggested I try 'vesa' in XF86Config? I just spent 10 minutes (to no avail) trying to figure who did. I wouldn't have known to try that at all. Anyway, Michael, Lee, Alexandr & Rumen, I truly appreciate your time and patience in helping me solve this problem. My only problem now is how to get beers to you all. Obligatorily yours, Eric Pierce --- mjt wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:18:15 -0800 (PST), Eric Pierce wrote:

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The install went fine. However, X will load up and freeze under a minute. I can swirl around the mouse for 10-20 seconds then everything freezes up.

1) have you checked your "~/.xsession-errors" file for any clues? 2) which environment are you running (kde, openbox, etc) 3) post your complete h/w specs 4) post your /etc/X11/XF86Config[-4] file please

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On Tuesday 16 December 2003 14:39, Bernd wrote:

On Monday 15 December 2003 15:49, Eric Pierce wrote: <snip>

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Who suggested I try 'vesa' in XF86Config? I just spent 10 minutes (to no avail) trying to figure who did. I wouldn't have known to try that at all.

Here's the excerpt -

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...cranked up sax2 reset the driver and the monitor.  It didn't like my monitor during the test.  I tried VESA.  It didn't like that either.  I reset the monitor back to mine again, then saved without the test.  Restarted and it works like a charm.

As you can see, my setup -didn't- like VESA and I also used sax2, yet I still got mine working again with my own monitor. Glad it worked for you though!!! Sometimes all it takes is a little tweaking on the thought processes to look at more options.

Bernd

I just realized that this excerpt about X crashes was originally posted to "[SLE] post-kernel upgrade nVidia problems", SO that's either why you couldn't find it , OR I'm not the one to take the credit (which is more likely). Anyhow, glad you're up and running, whether or not it was me!!! Bernd -- "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery