Trying to run KMail in LXDE I found that some 75 other programs have to be downloaded too. Among them Akonadi Strigi and so on. I wondered if I could use an older KMail with less dependencies. -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.36-rc3-8-default LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 17:35pm up 1 day 1:41, 2 users, load average: 1.81, 1.93, 2.45 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 of September 2010, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Trying to run KMail in LXDE I found that some 75 other programs downloaded too. Among them Akonadi Strigi and so on.
Packages, not programs. And for this high number you presumably count everything needed from the KDE stack and also all packages which are recommended. You can try installing without the recommended packages (e.g. zypper install --no-recommends).
I wondered if I could use an older KMail with less dependencies.
Or you can try to install a version from an older openSUSE release. KDE libraries are backwards compatible, so this generally should work, if you have all requirements. Or, of course, you can also realize that the number of packages doesn't matter and that the space taken by them is not really that much, especially nowadays. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, September 02, 2010 06:59:51 pm Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Thursday 02 of September 2010, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Trying to run KMail in LXDE I found that some 75 other programs downloaded too. Among them Akonadi Strigi and so on.
Packages, not programs. And for this high number you presumably count everything needed from the KDE stack and also all packages which are recommended. You can try installing without the recommended packages (e.g. zypper install --no-recommends).
I wondered if I could use an older KMail with less dependencies.
Or you can try to install a version from an older openSUSE release. KDE libraries are backwards compatible, so this generally should work, if you have all requirements.
Or, of course, you can also realize that the number of packages doesn't matter and that the space taken by them is not really that much, especially nowadays.
My plan is to start working with LXDE without loosing my longtime mail program. But it seems that the results of akonadi test program require a quit after which KMail has to be restarted. That behavior has gone in KDE but it is still a problem in LXDE. Thanks. Think the --no-recommends at least helps to reduce the total of packages ;). From 75 (with Yast) to 40 with zypper. But the packages which do give me troubles in LXDE are akonadi and friends. If I am still plagued by akonadi, could I delete all 40 packages installed with KMail? In which version the akonadi nepomuk thing started? How far do I have to go back? Could I do a zypper --no-recommends with an older version? Would have to add this version to my software repositories I assume. And how to avoid an update from this ancient kmail when I zypper dup? -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.36-rc3-8-default LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 19:35pm up 0:03, 1 user, load average: 4.90, 2.38, 0.92 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 September 2010 14:48:19 C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My plan is to start working with LXDE without loosing my longtime mail program. But it seems that the results of akonadi test program require a quit after which KMail has to be restarted.
This (bko#241977, bnc#571546 comment 6, bnc#601711) is resolved by an online update to 11.3 which is currently being tested in openSUSE:11.3:Update:Test. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:21:08 pm Will Stephenson wrote:
On Thursday 02 September 2010 14:48:19 C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
My plan is to start working with LXDE without loosing my longtime mail program. But it seems that the results of akonadi test program require a quit after which KMail has to be restarted.
This (bko#241977, bnc#571546 comment 6, bnc#601711) is resolved by an online update to 11.3 which is currently being tested in openSUSE:11.3:Update:Test.
Thanks Will, just wait and see ;)
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
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On 9/2/2010 7:59 AM, Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Thursday 02 of September 2010, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Trying to run KMail in LXDE I found that some 75 other programs downloaded too. Among them Akonadi Strigi and so on.
Packages, not programs. And for this high number you presumably count everything needed from the KDE stack and also all packages which are recommended. You can try installing without the recommended packages (e.g. zypper install --no-recommends).
I wondered if I could use an older KMail with less dependencies.
Or you can try to install a version from an older openSUSE release. KDE libraries are backwards compatible, so this generally should work, if you have all requirements.
Or, of course, you can also realize that the number of packages doesn't matter and that the space taken by them is not really that much, especially nowadays.
When I ran SuSE 10.0, I was using KMail. At some point, KMail started to produce approximately 10% of received messages in some Asiatic font, from which there was no recovery; that is to say, the mail could not be recovered and read by any means known to me. (I brought this to the attention of this list, with no solution.) I don't know what version of KMail was used in 10.0, but I would advise you to find out, before committing to its use. Ever since that time, I have used Mozilla Thunderbird for email, in both Linux and Windows, and with the exception of one version which did not permit "replies to list only" I have been 100% satisfied with it. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 September 2010, Doug wrote:
When I ran SuSE 10.0, I was using KMail. At some point, KMail started to produce approximately 10% of received messages in some Asiatic font, from which there was no recovery; that is to say, the mail could not be recovered and read by any means known to me. (I brought this to the attention of this list, with no solution.) I don't know what version of KMail was used in 10.0, but I would advise you to find out, before committing to its use.
This does not seem to me to be a kmail issue, I've been using kmail through 10.0, 10.1, 10.3, 11.0, 11.1, 11.2 without any problem of this sort, as well as with kmail versions of the corresponding KDE 3.x versions of Mepis. Thierry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 September 2010 19:54:45 Doug wrote:
When I ran SuSE 10.0, I was using KMail. At some point, KMail started to produce approximately 10% of received messages in some Asiatic font, from which there was no recovery; that is to say, the mail could not be recovered and read by any means known to me. (I brought this to the attention of this list, with no solution.) I don't know what version of KMail was used in 10.0, but I would advise you to find out, before committing to its use.
A really old version, five years old last July: -rw-r--r-- 7 root root 12927145 2005-09-13 05:35 <snip>/CD- ARCHIVE/10.0/SUSE-10.0-DVD-RC4/CD1/suse/i586/kdepim3-3.4.2-18.i586.rpm http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php So I wouldn't use your experience to make any decisions about the utility of KMail in 2010. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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