It's missing from my 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade together with /etc/init.d/udev, but udevd is running. can anyone confirm that this is correct as I can't find them on the DVD. The admin guide page 346 says there should be a /sbin/hotplug, I only have /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. rebuilding from source rpm udev-053-15.2, no /sbin/hotplug and I'm unable to access any USB devices. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
On Saturday 23 April 2005 18:49, Sid Boyce wrote:
It's missing from my 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade together with /etc/init.d/udev, but udevd is running. can anyone confirm that this is correct as I can't find them on the DVD. The admin guide page 346 says there should be a /sbin/hotplug, I only have /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. rebuilding from source rpm udev-053-15.2, no /sbin/hotplug and I'm unable to access any USB devices. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks Hi Sid,
On two 9.3 installs on (1) dual P-III and (2) AMD-XP3000 I find only /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. BUT my USB devices are all working better than on any previous release. USB Ext HD 160GB, USB FlashDisks, and USB BlueTooth adapter. PeterB
Peter B Van Campen wrote:
On Saturday 23 April 2005 18:49, Sid Boyce wrote:
It's missing from my 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade together with /etc/init.d/udev, but udevd is running. can anyone confirm that this is correct as I can't find them on the DVD. The admin guide page 346 says there should be a /sbin/hotplug, I only have /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. rebuilding from source rpm udev-053-15.2, no /sbin/hotplug and I'm unable to access any USB devices. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
Hi Sid,
On two 9.3 installs on (1) dual P-III and (2) AMD-XP3000 I find only /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. BUT my USB devices are all working better than on any previous release. USB Ext HD 160GB, USB FlashDisks, and USB BlueTooth adapter.
PeterB
lsusb comes up empty on both 64-bit (x86_64 install) and 32-bit laptops, so I don't even see the USB ports. I first noticed it on the USB ext 120G, then on the webcam and kodak DX3600, the 120G is now up on 9.2 x86. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
On Sunday 24 April 2005 01:49, Sid Boyce wrote:
It's missing from my 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade together with /etc/init.d/udev, but udevd is running. can anyone confirm that this is correct as I can't find them on the DVD. The admin guide page 346 says there should be a /sbin/hotplug, I only have /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. rebuilding from source rpm udev-053-15.2, no /sbin/hotplug and I'm unable to access any USB devices.
The hotplug scheme changed in 9.3. I haven't seen the manual so I don't know what it says, but in 9.3 hotplug events are handled by udevd by default. Check out the /etc/init.d/boot.udev script. While it's started, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty, since udevd steals and handles the events,. while if it's stopped that variable will have /sbin/udevsend As for your problem, which kernel modules do you have loaded? Are the USB modules loaded at all? As I mentioned in another mail, I have heard rumours of upgrades causing modules not to get loaded as they should, I'd love to get that confirmed
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 24 April 2005 01:49, Sid Boyce wrote:
It's missing from my 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade together with /etc/init.d/udev, but udevd is running. can anyone confirm that this is correct as I can't find them on the DVD. The admin guide page 346 says there should be a /sbin/hotplug, I only have /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. rebuilding from source rpm udev-053-15.2, no /sbin/hotplug and I'm unable to access any USB devices.
The hotplug scheme changed in 9.3. I haven't seen the manual so I don't know what it says, but in 9.3 hotplug events are handled by udevd by default. Check out the /etc/init.d/boot.udev script. While it's started, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty, since udevd steals and handles the events,. while if it's stopped that variable will have /sbin/udevsend
As for your problem, which kernel modules do you have loaded? Are the USB modules loaded at all? As I mentioned in another mail, I have heard rumours of upgrades causing modules not to get loaded as they should, I'd love to get that confirmed
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty lsmod shows usbcore, pl2303 and usbserial loaded, but I had to manually load ov511 ... the webcam doesn't come active and at present I can't test the usb serial port. hald and dbus daemons are running. Perhaps HAL is a last minute change to 9.3 as the admin guide doesn't mention it, it still mentions /sbin/hotplug which is not in any of the packages. /dev/.udevdb hasn't registered any USB devices. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
On Sunday 24 April 2005 02:56, Sid Boyce wrote:
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty
That's what I said. It's handled by udev
lsmod shows usbcore, pl2303 and usbserial loaded, but I had to manually load ov511 ... the webcam doesn't come active
Not even with all the modules loaded? Do you get any interesting messages in /var/log/messages ?
and at present I can't test the usb serial port. hald and dbus daemons are running. Perhaps HAL is a last minute change to 9.3 as the admin guide doesn't mention it, it still mentions /sbin/hotplug which is not in any of the packages.
hal is secondary. It gets called by udev as a hotplug event
/dev/.udevdb hasn't registered any USB devices.
How about /proc/bus/usb/devices ?
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 24 April 2005 02:56, Sid Boyce wrote:
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty
That's what I said. It's handled by udev
Just confirming that to you.
lsmod shows usbcore, pl2303 and usbserial loaded, but I had to manually load ov511 ... the webcam doesn't come active
Not even with all the modules loaded? Do you get any interesting messages in /var/log/messages ?
None from the last few days. Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject ov511: registering. parent: <NULL>, set: module Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject_hotplug Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: fill_kobj_path: path = '/module/ov511' Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject_hotplug: /sbin/hotplug module seq=1713 HOME=/ PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin A CTION=add DEVPATH=/module/ov511 SUBSYSTEM=module Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject_hotplug - call_usermodehelper returned -2 Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject ov511: registering. parent: <NULL>, set: drivers Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject_hotplug Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: fill_kobj_path: path = '/bus/usb/drivers/ov511' Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject_hotplug: /sbin/hotplug drivers seq=1714 HOME=/ PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=add DEVPATH=/bus/usb/drivers/ov511 SUBSYSTEM=drivers Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: kobject_hotplug - call_usermodehelper returned -2 Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: usbcore: registered new driver ov511 Apr 21 23:17:39 Boycie kernel: drivers/usb/media/ov511.c: v1.64 for Linux 2.5 : ov511 USB Camera Driver
and at present I can't test the usb serial port. hald and dbus daemons are running. Perhaps HAL is a last minute change to 9.3 as the admin guide doesn't mention it, it still mentions /sbin/hotplug which is not in any of the packages.
hal is secondary. It gets called by udev as a hotplug event
/dev/.udevdb hasn't registered any USB devices.
How about /proc/bus/usb/devices ?
/proc/bus/usb/ is empty. If nothing else I'd expect to see the built-in USB ports. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
On Sunday 24 April 2005 03:22, Sid Boyce wrote:
/proc/bus/usb/ is empty. If nothing else I'd expect to see the built-in USB ports.
Yes, the usb core stuff should show up Is the module for the usb hub loaded? Thie would be one of the modules from kernel/drivers/usb/host in the module directory for the kernel (which one depends on your chipset)
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 24 April 2005 03:22, Sid Boyce wrote:
/proc/bus/usb/ is empty. If nothing else I'd expect to see the built-in USB ports.
Yes, the usb core stuff should show up
Is the module for the usb hub loaded? Thie would be one of the modules from kernel/drivers/usb/host in the module directory for the kernel (which one depends on your chipset)
Well spotted, I just looked at a previous copy of lsmod I saved away and did a modprobe of some, this is how it now looks, I thought it looked a bit light. I now have to figure out why they are not being loaded. pl2303 23108 0 usbserial 34928 1 pl2303 usbcore 144024 8 hci_usb,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ov511,pl2303,usbserial Boycie:/ftp/apr05/hal-0.5.0 # lsusb Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:a511 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV511+ WebCam Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Thanks and Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
Hey Group; I am runing 9.2 and have had similar problems with USB on my HD device. I have found lsusb see it but SuSE claims it is not a block device. I have found a work around for it and that is to mount the device within about 5 minute after it has booted and I have logged in as root. It is very predictable and solved the headach. Remeber the power to the HD must be on during the bootup. Turning it on after bootup seem to only once in a while work. Also hwinfo finds it when mounted but not when it is unmounted. For me it is a SuSE problem Sid Boyce wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
/proc/bus/usb/ is empty. If nothing else I'd expect to see the built-in USB ports. Yes, the usb core stuff should show up Is the module for the usb hub loaded? Thie would be one of the modules from kernel/drivers/usb/host in the module directory for the kernel (which one depends on your chipset) Well spotted, I just looked at a previous copy of lsmod I saved away and did a modprobe of some, this is how it now looks, I thought it looked a bit light. I now have to figure out why they are not being loaded.
On Sunday 24 April 2005 03:22, Sid Boyce wrote: pl2303 23108 0 usbserial 34928 1 pl2303 usbcore 144024 8 hci_usb,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ov511,pl2303,usbserial Boycie:/ftp/apr05/hal-0.5.0 # lsusb Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:a511 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV511+ WebCam Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Thanks and Regards Sid.
On Sunday 24 April 2005 02:56, Sid Boyce wrote:
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty lsmod shows usbcore, pl2303 and usbserial loaded, but I had to manually load ov511 ... the webcam doesn't come active and at present I can't test the usb serial port. hald and dbus daemons are running. Perhaps HAL is a last minute change to 9.3 as the admin guide doesn't mention it, it still mentions /sbin/hotplug which is not in any of the packages. /dev/.udevdb hasn't registered any USB devices. Regards Sid.
Actually, since it is an upgrade, run this rpm -qa --qf "%{NAME} %{DISTRIBUTION}\n"|grep -v 9.3 Maybe the problem is that some packages from the previous version are hanging around disturbing things?!
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 24 April 2005 02:56, Sid Boyce wrote:
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty lsmod shows usbcore, pl2303 and usbserial loaded, but I had to manually load ov511 ... the webcam doesn't come active and at present I can't test the usb serial port. hald and dbus daemons are running. Perhaps HAL is a last minute change to 9.3 as the admin guide doesn't mention it, it still mentions /sbin/hotplug which is not in any of the packages. /dev/.udevdb hasn't registered any USB devices. Regards Sid.
Actually, since it is an upgrade, run this
rpm -qa --qf "%{NAME} %{DISTRIBUTION}\n"|grep -v 9.3
Maybe the problem is that some packages from the previous version are hanging around disturbing things?!
Boycie:/ # rpm -qa --qf "%{NAME} %{DISTRIBUTION}\n"|grep -v 9.3 yast2-x11 SuSE Linux 9.2 (x86-64) xmltex SuSE Linux 9.2 (x86-64) ksensors (none) gpg-pubkey (none) gpg-pubkey (none) bbacpi (none) libxine1-devel (none) lshw (none) sysfsutils (none) udftools (none) cooledit (none) libdvdcss2 (none) rkhunter (none) libdvdcss2-devel (none) obexftp (none) sdm (none) fox (none) glabels (none) fglrx64_6_8_0 (none) m4 (none) ethereal (none) MySQL-shared (none) gpg-pubkey (none) skype (none) torcs SuSE Linux 9.2 (i586) HelixPlayer (none) gpg-pubkey (none) kmymoney2 (none) I think I shall do a fresh install on the x86 laptop and compare. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
Sid Boyce wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 24 April 2005 01:49, Sid Boyce wrote:
It's missing from my 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade together with /etc/init.d/udev, but udevd is running. can anyone confirm that this is correct as I can't find them on the DVD. The admin guide page 346 says there should be a /sbin/hotplug, I only have /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. rebuilding from source rpm udev-053-15.2, no /sbin/hotplug and I'm unable to access any USB devices.
The hotplug scheme changed in 9.3. I haven't seen the manual so I don't know what it says, but in 9.3 hotplug events are handled by udevd by default. Check out the /etc/init.d/boot.udev script. While it's started, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty, since udevd steals and handles the events,. while if it's stopped that variable will have /sbin/udevsend
As for your problem, which kernel modules do you have loaded? Are the USB modules loaded at all? As I mentioned in another mail, I have heard rumours of upgrades causing modules not to get loaded as they should, I'd love to get that confirmed
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is empty lsmod shows usbcore, pl2303 and usbserial loaded, but I had to manually load ov511 ... the webcam doesn't come active and at present I can't test the usb serial port. hald and dbus daemons are running. Perhaps HAL is a last minute change to 9.3 as the admin guide doesn't mention it, it still mentions /sbin/hotplug which is not in any of the packages. /dev/.udevdb hasn't registered any USB devices. Regards Sid.
What I didn't do when 9.3 first rebooted was to do another reboot. Building a kernel.org kernel and rebooting gave the same problem, next I rebooted on the SuSE kernel and it picked up all the USB devices. Back to the kernel.org kernel which didn't have an initrd as I had reiserfs etc. compiled in and seeing something in dmesg, I did mkinitrd for the 2.6.12-rc3 kernel and that sorted the problem out. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
Sid Boyce wrote:
It's missing from my 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade together with /etc/init.d/udev, but udevd is running. can anyone confirm that this is correct as I can't find them on the DVD. The admin guide page 346 says there should be a /sbin/hotplug, I only have /sbin/hotplugeventrecorder. rebuilding from source rpm udev-053-15.2, no /sbin/hotplug and I'm unable to access any USB devices. Regards Sid.
HAL is not mentioned in the admin guide, but I see the following in /var/log/warn. It seems HAL is used to handle these devices now and I'm just about to start reading up on it. /var/log/warn:Apr 23 00:35:58 Boycie hald[4081]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1534. Rebasing to 1571 /var/log/warn:Apr 23 01:42:53 Boycie hal.hotplug[19450]: DEVPATH is not set /var/log/warn:Apr 23 01:51:40 Boycie hal.hotplug[21259]: DEVPATH is not set /var/log/warn:Apr 24 00:13:18 Boycie hal.hotplug[7344]: DEVPATH is not set /var/log/warn:Apr 24 00:23:48 Boycie hal.hotplug[9487]: DEVPATH is not set /var/log/warn:Apr 24 00:26:31 Boycie hal.hotplug[19307]: DEVPATH is not set ps fax shows 4332 ? Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
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