[opensuse] [OT] Linux in the classroom (K-12)
All, I just saw this on another mailing list. I know there has previously been a little discussion here about using Linux in a classroom environment. (K-12 I assume). Apparently, the below is fairly big deal and if there are any of you from the Atlanta GA area you may want to volunteer. === From: "Steve Hargadon" <steve.hargadon@gmail.com> Subject: [K12OSN] NECC 2007 Open Source Pavilion - Looking for Volunteers! To: schoolforge-discuss@schoolforge.net, "Support list for open source software in schools." <k12osn@redhat.com> OK, NECC is coming up (June 25 - 27 in Atlanta), and this is a combination of a status report and a call for volunteers. Please forward this email to your Free and Open Source Software friends! NECC is the National Educational Computing Conference (center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2007), and it attracts over 15,000 educators each year. It's arguable one of the largest (if not the largest) educational technology shows in the world. For the last several years NECC has supported an "Open Source Pavilion" (apologies to Richard Stallman) with an Linux thin-client lab for demonstration purposes. Last year we added a speaker series, which is now a part of their main program. This year we are getting our own large room (!!) and adjacent hallway space. Hurrah! This year's speakers can be seen at our organizing wiki: http://necc2007.wikispaces.com/Speakers. There will also be two "Birds of a Feather" sessions on FLOSS: http://necc2007.wikispaces.com/Birds+of+a+Feather. OK. Now, about getting help! We could really use: 1. Setup volunteers. We'll set up the lab and computers late Saturday afternoon / evening (June 23). Maybe we'll get some pizzas and make it a party. 2. Volunteer for "milling around" Monday through Wednesday (25th - 27th). The Open Source Pavilion needs folks who'll just answer questions (mostly really basic) about what FLOSS is. Come for an hour, or come for three days. 3. "Playground booths," same three days. These are 5 - 10 stations where we'll be demonstrating different FLOSS programs. Previously we've showcased OpenOffice, GIMP, Audacity, Linspire, SchoolTool, Edubuntu, Moodle, Firefox, and Knoppix. We're open to just about anything that you'd like to demonstrate that will give our attendees some good hands-on, one-on-one demonstrations. If you can bring your own computer, that helps, but if you can't just let us know. We also welcome proposals from commercial vendors who will commit themselves to also supporting the FLOSS ideals and helping out in general. You can go to the wiki (http://necc2007.wikispaces.com) to sign up to volunteer or send me and email letting me know what you can do. Take care, Steve -- Steve Hargadon steve@hargadon.com www.SteveHargadon.com 916-899-1400 ================== Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 21 May 2007 10:21, Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
I suppose the others trying to staunch the flood of off-topic posts on this list are getting tired of having to say it and perhaps some think there's only a few who care, so I'll chime in this time and say: If you know it's off-topic and go so far as to mark it as such, then SEND IT TO THE OFF-TOPIC LIST! Please! Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Monday 21 May 2007 10:21, Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
I suppose the others trying to staunch the flood of off-topic posts on this list are getting tired of having to say it and perhaps some think there's only a few who care, so I'll chime in this time and say:
If you know it's off-topic and go so far as to mark it as such, then SEND IT TO THE OFF-TOPIC LIST!
Please!
Randall Schulz
a) Not everyone interested in volunteering or making a useful to contribution for such event will subscribe to the OT list. b) Strictly speaking this is about assistance in helping setting up Linux, so is much less off topic than some, and is arguably on topic... c) I do NOT think that this is a particularly diplomatically useful response .... I can only assume that you neglected to read the OP before responding... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUrZYasN0sSnLmgIRAsO0AKCT8HhtrlaapsbZZ0ppcOw6qzEIIgCdGage u4rGNJVyZmUGoHQNfVODXIM= =H/9N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* G T Smith <grahamsmith@gandalfsemporium.homelinux.com> [05-22-07 05:22]:
a) Not everyone interested in volunteering or making a useful to contribution for such event will subscribe to the OT list.
Then they should restrain themselves and refrain from posting OT.
b) Strictly speaking this is about assistance in helping setting up Linux, so is much less off topic than some, and is arguably on topic...
grep -i suse <article> results in no output
c) I do NOT think that this is a particularly diplomatically useful response .... I can only assume that you neglected to read the OP before responding...
You think that Randall posted after "noticing" the subject line rather than reading the post? What response would be "diplomatically useful" and, providing you have a better response, why didn't you "diplomatically" advise the poster the proper channel for his post? I cite a partial quote from a respected member of this list: <quote> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:24:04 +0200 From: Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> To: opensuse-project@opensuse.org [...] The opensuse@opensuse.org list is already unusable for anything besides pointless off-topic discussions. So please, let us use *this* list for real work, actions, not blathering. </quote> -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
And what besides a critique did you contribute here? Linux in the classroom is VERY important in my opinion. and even moreso for SuSE/Novell. The majority of server installs I did when I was a tech was Novell in schools. I have done lots of work for school districts, and I prefer SuSE. I started reading this thread hoping to interject my success with ltsp, and would like to see SuSE more involved with k12ltsp.org. Seems a perfect match with the benefit of Novell's inroads already with the school system. I forget which distro Jim is/was using for ltsp, but is wasn't SuSE. I used SuSE for my ltsp stuff and did the best I could to champion it with him for that project. What Novell is doing with M$, what they are doing with SuSE, what is happing in the markets, public opinion, (even jokes, which poke at known public opinions) is all relevant to SuSE a go. The more information I have to champion the cause (SuSE, not list etiquette), the better. That this list provide technical information / answers to the folks that are discovering SuSE, is a great thing. That this list contributes to arming those that are able to help make a go of SuSE, and bring in more users, gain insights that help pacify PHB's, all the better. The people that complain about posts, and contribute only if the letter of the law is followed only stifle progress. B-) On Tuesday 22 May 2007 6:12 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* G T Smith <grahamsmith@gandalfsemporium.homelinux.com> [05-22-07 05:22]:
a) Not everyone interested in volunteering or making a useful to contribution for such event will subscribe to the OT list.
Then they should restrain themselves and refrain from posting OT.
b) Strictly speaking this is about assistance in helping setting up Linux, so is much less off topic than some, and is arguably on topic...
grep -i suse <article> results in no output
c) I do NOT think that this is a particularly diplomatically useful response .... I can only assume that you neglected to read the OP before responding...
You think that Randall posted after "noticing" the subject line rather than reading the post? What response would be "diplomatically useful" and, providing you have a better response, why didn't you "diplomatically" advise the poster the proper channel for his post?
I cite a partial quote from a respected member of this list:
<quote> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:24:04 +0200 From: Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> To: opensuse-project@opensuse.org [...] The opensuse@opensuse.org list is already unusable for anything besides pointless off-topic discussions. So please, let us use *this* list for real work, actions, not blathering. </quote>
-- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Op Tuesday 22 May 2007 18:14:58 schreef Brad Bourn:
I forget which distro Jim is/was using for ltsp, but is wasn't SuSE. I used SuSE for my ltsp stuff and did the best I could to champion it with him for that project.
http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 1:01 pm, Richard Bos wrote:
Fn EXCELLENT!!!! Thanks Richard! B-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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