SUSE 10.0 Sound problems with Firefox
Hi, An update to a previously posted issue: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Jun/4210.html After the Firefox 2.0 release, and before http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/SUSE_Linux_10.0/ got updated, I downloaded Firefox from getfirefox.com instead, and this actually solved my original issue. Today, I removed my installation of Firefox, and installed from the location mentioned before. And then, the exact same problem appeared. Are there any actual changes from the version released at getfirefox.com to the rpm versions, since this causes my problem ? Any way to solve it, or should I just use the version from their site, instead of upgrading via smart/yast/whatever ? //Sylvester
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Hi,
An update to a previously posted issue: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Jun/4210.html
After the Firefox 2.0 release, and before http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/SUSE_Linux_10.0/ got updated, I downloaded Firefox from getfirefox.com instead, and this actually solved my original issue. Today, I removed my installation of Firefox, and installed from the location mentioned before. And then, the exact same problem appeared.
Are there any actual changes from the version released at getfirefox.com to the rpm versions, since this causes my problem ? Any way to solve it, or should I just use the version from their site, instead of upgrading via smart/yast/whatever ?
What sort of "sound problems" with Firefox are you talking about? Cheers. -- I'm dangerous when I know what I'm doing.
Basil Chupin wrote:
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Hi,
An update to a previously posted issue: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Jun/4210.html Explained here. What sort of "sound problems" with Firefox are you talking about?
Cheers.
But posted here for you convenience as well:
Hi I have been trying for quite some time now, to figure out my problem with no sound in Firefox. I'm thinking sound embedded in flash, movies etc., everything with sound in it. Here's a summary: I have permissions to /dev/dsp's I am a member of the audio group I can play sound through any other app, using oss or alsa Sound in other browsers work perfectly (Mozilla for instance) Sound in Firefox actually does work, when i shutdown TeamSpeak wich only occupies /dev/dsp0 This leaves /dev/dsp open, which Mozilla, XMMS, and other apps gladly use. But Firefox won't. //Sylvester
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Hi,
An update to a previously posted issue: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Jun/4210.html Explained here. What sort of "sound problems" with Firefox are you talking about?
Cheers.
But posted here for you convenience as well:
Hi I have been trying for quite some time now, to figure out my problem with no sound in Firefox. I'm thinking sound embedded in flash, movies etc., everything with sound in it.
Here's a summary: I have permissions to /dev/dsp's I am a member of the audio group I can play sound through any other app, using oss or alsa Sound in other browsers work perfectly (Mozilla for instance)
Sound in Firefox actually does work, when i shutdown TeamSpeak wich only occupies /dev/dsp0 This leaves /dev/dsp open, which Mozilla, XMMS, and other apps gladly use. But Firefox won't.
Firstly, if the copy from getfirefox.com works then use it--there is are no compelling reasons to use the rpm from Suse. Secondly, I suspect that the problem is in the plugins where one of the flash players is not the correct version--or simply does not work on some sites. For example I, and others, cannot get VIDEO when going to Foxnews; the AUDIO is there but not the picture when trying to play a video (the problem is with Foxnews actually). When you have Firefox running (try both "versions"-getfirefox and Suse) type in the URL window "about:plugins" (without the quotes) and all the installed plugins will be shown. Take a note of what they are and versions. Compare this list against the "other" version. BTW, there is a beta out for version 9 of the Shockwave Flash (current installed version is 7). Don't bother getting the beta unless you are happy to restart Firefox halfway thru playing something when the whole shebang goes into a reverberating echo mess. Mind you the lipsync has been fixed in this beta but the "lockup" is something else :-( . Cheers. -- I am dangerous when I know what I'm doing.
Firstly, if the copy from getfirefox.com works then use it--there is are no compelling reasons to use the rpm from Suse. Other than it can be updated via package managers I guess ?
Secondly, I suspect that the problem is in the plugins where one of the flash players is not the correct version--or simply does not work on some sites. For example I, and others, cannot get VIDEO when going to Foxnews; the AUDIO is there but not the picture when trying to play a video (the problem is with Foxnews actually). The problem is not only with flash, also embedded audio and video using
Basil Chupin wrote: the mplayerplug-in.
When you have Firefox running (try both "versions"-getfirefox and Suse) type in the URL window "about:plugins" (without the quotes) and all the installed plugins will be shown. Take a note of what they are and versions. Compare this list against the "other" version.
Versions are the same (as they should be, ~/.mozilla/plugins links to /usr/lib/browser-plugins, this is what the rpm uses as well right?).
BTW, there is a beta out for version 9 of the Shockwave Flash (current installed version is 7). Don't bother getting the beta unless you are happy to restart Firefox halfway thru playing something when the whole shebang goes into a reverberating echo mess. Mind you the lipsync has been fixed in this beta but the "lockup" is something else :-( .
Cheers.
//Sylvester
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Firstly, if the copy from getfirefox.com works then use it--there is are no compelling reasons to use the rpm from Suse.
Other than it can be updated via package managers I guess ?
Big deal. If yo are using the one from mozilla now what's the problem in not doing so in the future? In fact from mozilla you can get the very latest, bleeding edge version everynight if you wanted to (like I do).
Secondly, I suspect that the problem is in the plugins where one of the flash players is not the correct version--or simply does not work on some sites. For example I, and others, cannot get VIDEO when going to Foxnews; the AUDIO is there but not the picture when trying to play a video (the problem is with Foxnews actually). The problem is not only with flash, also embedded audio and video using the mplayerplug-in. When you have Firefox running (try both "versions"-getfirefox and Suse) type in the URL window "about:plugins" (without the quotes) and all the installed plugins will be shown. Take a note of what they are and versions. Compare this list against the "other" version.
Versions are the same (as they should be, ~/.mozilla/plugins links to /usr/lib/browser-plugins, this is what the rpm uses as well right?).
Well, yes and no. If you install the rpm it puts the plugins in /usr/lib/browser-plugins. If you use the INSTALLER version of Firefox from mozilla.org then it will also--by default--put them into the same directory (/usr/lib/browser-plugins). With the installer version you do have the option to install Firefox in a directory of your choice--and I always install it in my /home directory. From what you show above, you seem to have installed Firefox in your /directory which is why you show '~/.mozilla/plugins' because the plugins directory does not normally show up in your /home directory. So, what you have to do is to copy everything from /usr/lib/browser-plugins into your ~/.mozilla/plugins; *then* you will have both the same. One other thing: you haven't messed around with the version of java installed with Suse? The symlink in the plugins now points to the 1.4.2 version and if install the 1.5 version then you have to alter the symlink. Another thing, do you have the NoScript extension installed? Cheers. -- I'm dangerous when I know what I'm doing.
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote: <snip>
Versions are the same (as they should be, ~/.mozilla/plugins links to /usr/lib/browser-plugins, this is what the rpm uses as well right?).
Well, yes and no.
If you install the rpm it puts the plugins in /usr/lib/browser-plugins.
If you use the INSTALLER version of Firefox from mozilla.org then it will also--by default--put them into the same directory (/usr/lib/browser-plugins). With the installer version you do have the option to install Firefox in a directory of your choice--and I always install it in my /home directory. Installer version ? Where is that ? :-) I just extracted Firefrom from the tar.gz....
From what you show above, you seem to have installed Firefox in your /directory which is why you show '~/.mozilla/plugins' because the plugins directory does not normally show up in your /home directory. So, what you have to do is to copy everything from /usr/lib/browser-plugins into your ~/.mozilla/plugins; *then* you will have both the same. ... and copied it to /home/zly/Programs/Firefox. It seems to use /home/zly/.mozilla/plugins, which is linked to /usr/lib/browser-plugins, so again, it does use the same versions.
One other thing: you haven't messed around with the version of java installed with Suse? The symlink in the plugins now points to the 1.4.2 version and if install the 1.5 version then you have to alter the symlink.
Basil Chupin wrote: libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/browser-plugins is a symlink to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0...etc..., so that should not cause problems.
Another thing, do you have the NoScript extension installed?
Nope.
Cheers.
Just to remind you of the original post, Firefox (the RPM version) actually DOES play sound, when closing down TeamSpeak which only occupies /dev/dsp0, where as the version from mozilla.org happily uses /dev/dsp, even when teamspeak is running. //Sylvester
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote: <snip>
Versions are the same (as they should be, ~/.mozilla/plugins links to /usr/lib/browser-plugins, this is what the rpm uses as well right?). Well, yes and no.
If you install the rpm it puts the plugins in /usr/lib/browser-plugins.
If you use the INSTALLER version of Firefox from mozilla.org then it will also--by default--put them into the same directory (/usr/lib/browser-plugins). With the installer version you do have the option to install Firefox in a directory of your choice--and I always install it in my /home directory.
Installer version ? Where is that ? :-)
Good question. Looks like its been done away with and the last one I can see is here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/packages/ dated last December. I guess they figured out that Linux users were a lot smarter than Windows users and stopped providing the installer version for Linux. The Windows one is still going :-) .
I just extracted Firefrom from the tar.gz....
From what you show above, you seem to have installed Firefox in your /directory which is why you show '~/.mozilla/plugins' because the plugins directory does not normally show up in your /home directory. So, what you have to do is to copy everything from /usr/lib/browser-plugins into your ~/.mozilla/plugins; *then* you will have both the same.
... and copied it to /home/zly/Programs/Firefox.
I don't know if this is a typo or deliberate and whether this makes a difference to the problem but the name of the extracted directory from the tar.gz file is 'firefox' and not 'Firefox'. With eveything being case sensitive I wonder if the 'F' has anything to do with anything.
It seems to use /home/zly/.mozilla/plugins, which is linked to /usr/lib/browser-plugins, so again, it does use the same versions.
Sorry, but why the "link"? If you copied everything from the /usr/lib directory to the /home plugin directory then there is no need for any links to /usr/lib/browser-plugins.
One other thing: you haven't messed around with the version of java installed with Suse? The symlink in the plugins now points to the 1.4.2 version and if install the 1.5 version then you have to alter the symlink.
libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/browser-plugins is a symlink to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0...etc..., so that should not cause problems.
The default installation for Firefox installs java 1.42 and not 1.5 so you either upgraded to 1.5 or deliberately chose 1.5 during the original install and deselected 1.42.
Another thing, do you have the NoScript extension installed?
Nope.
OK.
Just to remind you of the original post, Firefox (the RPM version) actually DOES play sound, when closing down TeamSpeak which only occupies /dev/dsp0, where as the version from mozilla.org happily uses /dev/dsp, even when teamspeak is running.
I don't use TeamSpeak (can't even find in on the list of installed or available software) so cannot comment on what it uses but I have just started the tar.gz version of Firefox and also the RPM version as installed by SUSE and both are using /dev/dsp. Cheers. -- I'm dangerous when I know what I'm doing.
Basil Chupin wrote:
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Installer version ? Where is that ? :-) Good question. Looks like its been done away with and the last one I can see is here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/packages/
dated last December.
... and copied it to /home/zly/Programs/Firefox. I don't know if this is a typo or deliberate and whether this makes a difference to the problem but the name of the extracted directory from
It seems to use /home/zly/.mozilla/plugins, which is linked to /usr/lib/browser-plugins, so again, it does use the same versions. Sorry, but why the "link"? If you copied everything from the /usr/lib
I guess they figured out that Linux users were a lot smarter than Windows users and stopped providing the installer version for Linux. The Windows one is still going :-) . I see ;-) the tar.gz file is 'firefox' and not 'Firefox'. With eveything being case sensitive I wonder if the 'F' has anything to do with anything. Good point. I've tested with both 'f' and 'F' though. directory to the /home plugin directory then there is no need for any links to /usr/lib/browser-plugins. Thats just it, I did _not_ copy the files, instead I created the symlink.
libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/browser-plugins is a symlink to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0...etc..., so that should not cause problems. The default installation for Firefox installs java 1.42 and not 1.5 so you either upgraded to 1.5 or deliberately chose 1.5 during the original install and deselected 1.42. My mistake, libjavaplugin_oji.so actually links to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-sun-1.4.2.11/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so Just to remind you of the original post, Firefox (the RPM version) actually DOES play sound, when closing down TeamSpeak which only occupies /dev/dsp0, where as the version from mozilla.org happily uses /dev/dsp, even when teamspeak is running. I don't use TeamSpeak (can't even find in on the list of installed or available software) so cannot comment on what it uses but I have just started the tar.gz version of Firefox and also the RPM version as installed by SUSE and both are using /dev/dsp. I do not think that TeamSpeak is available as RPM, it is just an archive downloaded from goteamspeak.com, and then run the executable. The settings of the program allows you to select which OSS device it will use (which I've set to /dev/dsp0, full duplex device). I have no problem running any application that uses /dev/dsp (half duplex), other than RPM version of Firefox. Cheers. Right back at ya ;-)
You asked about noscript, and I have never used it. On the other hand, I have tried the extension called "Mediaplayerconnectivity", which allows you to execute a command for playing video/audio files found on websites. If I define mplayer for example, in mozilla.org version of Firefox, it will execute mplayer, and play the video with sound. Same extension, same video, same versions of software, in RPM version of Firefox, mplayer will complain that it can not access my audio device (/dev/dsp), even though it is available if I run mplayer, not started by the extension in Firefox. I am all lost ;-) //Sylvester
On 11/1/06, Sylvester Lykkehus
<trimmed> You asked about noscript, and I have never used it. On the other hand, I have tried the extension called "Mediaplayerconnectivity", which allows you to execute a command for playing video/audio files found on websites. If I define mplayer for example, in mozilla.org version of Firefox, it will execute mplayer, and play the video with sound. Same extension, same video, same versions of software, in RPM version of Firefox, mplayer will complain that it can not access my audio device (/dev/dsp), even though it is available if I run mplayer, not started by the extension in Firefox.
I am all lost ;-)
//Sylvester
Have you tried using the FoxyTunes extension of Firefox? Supports quite a lotta players to be controlled from Firefox. Just a thought... Take a look: http://www.foxytunes.com https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/219/ -- http://mckagan.googlepages.com
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