On 28/02/2020 11.35, Daniel Bauer wrote:

Am 28.02.20 um 07:35 schrieb Per Jessen:

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

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As I don't know much about systems I typed "dmesg" and what fell into my eyes are the following messages:

[ 1561.359808] perf: interrupt took too long (2502 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 79750

FWIW, I have been seeing those for a while, at least since 42.3.  I looked them up once, it is something about the kernel reducing some data sampling to not impact the system.

If you use 'dmesg -T', you'll also see the timestamp - they might not be recent messages.

Now it happens every few minutes. I can't work. I've uploaded var/log/messages for today: https://www.daniel-bauer.com/div/messages1.txt

Try another desktop.

Apart of QT errors I see that there are "snapper" and "baloo" messages, although I have nothing btrf on my system and have turned off search in KDE system settings. This also seems strange to me.

But the indexer may be running. Try "balooctl status" in a terminal, then "balooctl disable". I suspect that the btrfs "features" may need system time now and then and impact performance.

Please ask me for any information my system can give you to find out what happens here. At the moment I can't really use the system - only during writing this text I had two freezes...

I see a lot of messages from kactivitymanagerd. I don't know what that does. Open a terminal with two tabs. In one run "top -d 3.333", and in another "sudo /usr/sbin/iotop -o -d 3.3333" (maybe you have to install it). Top looks at processes, while iotop looks at disk usage. Then you can see if something is busy. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.0 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))

On 28/02/2020 12.21, Daniel Bauer wrote:

Am 27.02.20 um 19:57 schrieb Daniel Bauer:

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Hi, since yesterday I have some freezes of approx. 20 seconds: the mouse pointer disappears or stays unmovable, the keyboard doesn't react. The rest of the computer seems to run normally (gkrellm shows movement, radio continues playing).

HA! Don't know if it really was that, but I hope and it looks as if:

I had to change the battery of my wireless mouse!

Don't laugh at me, but it's true: since I changed it, the problems disappeared, at least until now. What I don't understand is why a mouse battery can block the keyboard that is attached with cable. If just the mouse would have stopped working, I'd have thought about it's battery sooner, but as the keyboard was blocked, too, I thought there must be something more...

Wild guess. The system was renegotiating the connection with the mouse every minute, bringing the USB subsystem down. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.0 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))

Am 28.02.20 um 12:51 schrieb Per Jessen:

Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 27.02.20 um 19:57 schrieb Daniel Bauer:

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Hi, since yesterday I have some freezes of approx. 20 seconds: the mouse pointer disappears or stays unmovable, the keyboard doesn't react. The rest of the computer seems to run normally (gkrellm shows movement, radio continues playing).

HA! Don't know if it really was that, but I hope and it looks as if: I had to change the battery of my wireless mouse!

Good stuff :-)

I bought my son a new wireless mouse recently, we were both slightly surprised to find it had a USB charge plug.

I would take a look at your /dev/sdc - smartd is reporting pending sectors.

Thanks for pointing me on that. It's a simple data disk. It's old and getting full (123 GB free of 1.8TB). Can I simply exchange it for a much bigger one without problems? -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Per Jessen [02-28-20 08:28]:

Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 28.02.20 um 12:51 schrieb Per Jessen:

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I would take a look at your /dev/sdc - smartd is reporting pending sectors.

Thanks for pointing me on that. It's a simple data disk. It's old and getting full (123 GB free of 1.8TB). Can I simply exchange it for a much bigger one without problems?

Generally yes. I guess it is an external disk?

provided it is not in /etc/fstab ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Per Jessen [02-28-20 10:03]:

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Per Jessen [02-28-20 08:28]:

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 28.02.20 um 12:51 schrieb Per Jessen:

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I would take a look at your /dev/sdc - smartd is reporting pending sectors.

Thanks for pointing me on that. It's a simple data disk. It's old and getting full (123 GB free of 1.8TB). Can I simply exchange it for a much bigger one without problems?

Generally yes. I guess it is an external disk?

provided it is not in /etc/fstab ...

Haha, yup! (except maybe with noauto?)

@Daniel, Patrick has a point - depending on how you mount this drive, you may need to update /etc/fstab.

Would highly recommend NOT including in /etc/fstab, instead use the available automounting mechanisms. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 28.02.20 um 18:37 schrieb Per Jessen:

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Per Jessen [02-28-20 10:03]:

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Per Jessen [02-28-20 08:28]:

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 28.02.20 um 12:51 schrieb Per Jessen: > I would take a look at your /dev/sdc - smartd is reporting > pending sectors.

Thanks for pointing me on that. It's a simple data disk. It's old and getting full (123 GB free of 1.8TB). Can I simply exchange it for a much bigger one without problems?

Generally yes. I guess it is an external disk?

provided it is not in /etc/fstab ...

Haha, yup! (except maybe with noauto?)

@Daniel, Patrick has a point - depending on how you mount this drive, you may need to update /etc/fstab.

Would highly recommend NOT including in /etc/fstab, instead use the available automounting mechanisms.

I don't see much of a difference between the two, but you can also automount it from fstab, with 'x-systemd.automount'. Works really well.

it is an encrypted internal disk, in fstab with its UUID I guess I just have to comment out the UUID and the line in cryptotab turn off, change the disk, boot, enter new UUID in fstab do the enrcyption stuff, update cryptotab, mount or reboot Or do I see it too simple? -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 28/02/2020 13.12, Daniel Bauer wrote:

Am 28.02.20 um 12:51 schrieb Per Jessen:

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

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I would take a look at your /dev/sdc - smartd is reporting pending sectors.

Thanks for pointing me on that. It's a simple data disk. It's old and getting full (123 GB free of 1.8TB). Can I simply exchange it for a much bigger one without problems?

Please post "smartctl -a /dev/sdc" so we can judge what's the matter with that disk. Meanwhile, be sure to have a backup. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.0 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))

On 28/02/2020 23.18, Daniel Bauer wrote:

Am 28.02.20 um 16:36 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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On 28/02/2020 13.12, Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 28.02.20 um 12:51 schrieb Per Jessen:

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

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I would take a look at your /dev/sdc - smartd is reporting pending sectors.

Thanks for pointing me on that. It's a simple data disk. It's old and getting full (123 GB free of 1.8TB). Can I simply exchange it for a much bigger one without problems?

Please post "smartctl -a /dev/sdc" so we can judge what's the matter with that disk. Meanwhile, be sure to have a backup.

https://www.daniel-bauer.com/div/smart.txt

It is indeed an old disk. 51Kh. It is not dead, just 5 bad areas. ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 030 030 000 Old_age Always - 51364 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 5 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.0 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))

Am 29.02.20 um 09:21 schrieb Per Jessen:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 28/02/2020 23.18, Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 28.02.20 um 16:36 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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On 28/02/2020 13.12, Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 28.02.20 um 12:51 schrieb Per Jessen:

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

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I would take a look at your /dev/sdc - smartd is reporting pending sectors.

Thanks for pointing me on that. It's a simple data disk. It's old and getting full (123 GB free of 1.8TB). Can I simply exchange it for a much bigger one without problems?

Please post "smartctl -a /dev/sdc" so we can judge what's the matter with that disk. Meanwhile, be sure to have a backup.

https://www.daniel-bauer.com/div/smart.txt

It is indeed an old disk. 51Kh. It is not dead, just 5 bad areas.

More will come - it's an almost 6 years old consumer harddisk. It's time to replace.

It was on the to-do-list anyway, not because of being old or errors (I didn't know about that till yesterday) but because of lack of space. It's also the disk that has the most changes all the time: delete 20 GB, add 50 GB... So, pccomponentes.com will have my order today :-) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 29/02/2020 09.21, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 28/02/2020 23.18, Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Please post "smartctl -a /dev/sdc" so we can judge what's the matter with that disk. Meanwhile, be sure to have a backup. https://www.daniel-bauer.com/div/smart.txt

It is indeed an old disk. 51Kh. It is not dead, just 5 bad areas.

More will come - it's an almost 6 years old consumer harddisk. It's time to replace.

Maybe, but he can copy almost everything to another disk.

Oh yes, it's really a matter of the data you keep. It sounds like Daniel isn't too worried about the data, he's sort of using it as a scratchpad. I also have a system with a poor drive: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 739 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors It will eventually be replaced, maybe it'll break first, it's not important. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org