Hi, everyday I thank great developpers of X11.org for giving us such good graphic environnement. But sometimes I think X11 is really to "heavy" For example today it is using 60% of my CPU and I do not know why.... PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5160 root 16 0 114m 11m 84m S 66.8 4.7 42:44.18 X 5884 fred 16 0 51848 15m 44m S 19.4 6.1 12:18.35 amarokapp 6724 fred 15 0 97400 39m 42m S 0.0 15.7 6:58.53 firefox-bin 5767 fred -51 0 21636 6232 14m S 3.5 2.4 2:55.46 artsd 10046 fred 15 0 150m 22m 112m S 0.0 9.0 1:04.25 soffice.bin 5907 fred 15 0 71148 38m 42m S 0.0 15.3 0:49.79 kontact 5848 fred 16 0 30968 11m 26m S 0.0 4.7 0:11.77 kdeinit 5988 fred 16 0 42240 14m 33m S 0.0 5.8 0:09.02 kdeinit 5786 fred 15 0 28152 10m 24m S 0.0 4.2 0:08.78 kdeinit What the hell is it doing ?? Fred
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 10:46:17PM +0100, Fred wrote:
Hi,
everyday I thank great developpers of X11.org for giving us such good graphic environnement. But sometimes I think X11 is really to "heavy"
For example today it is using 60% of my CPU and I do not know why.... PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5160 root 16 0 114m 11m 84m S 66.8 4.7 42:44.18 X 5884 fred 16 0 51848 15m 44m S 19.4 6.1 12:18.35 amarokapp ^^^^^^^^^ Are you watching a movie?
I've experienced something similar but with XFree, not X11, when trying to use tvtime with ATI card. X was using even more CPU and the picture was jerky. What kind of video card do you have? -Kastus
Hi, Fred wrote:
For example today it is using 60% of my CPU and I do not know why.... PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5160 root 16 0 114m 11m 84m S 66.8 4.7 42:44.18 X 5884 fred 16 0 51848 15m 44m S 19.4 6.1 12:18.35 amarokapp 6724 fred 15 0 97400 39m 42m S 0.0 15.7 6:58.53 firefox-bin 5767 fred -51 0 21636 6232 14m S 3.5 2.4 2:55.46 artsd 10046 fred 15 0 150m 22m 112m S 0.0 9.0 1:04.25 soffice.bin 5907 fred 15 0 71148 38m 42m S 0.0 15.3 0:49.79 kontact 5848 fred 16 0 30968 11m 26m S 0.0 4.7 0:11.77 kdeinit 5988 fred 16 0 42240 14m 33m S 0.0 5.8 0:09.02 kdeinit 5786 fred 15 0 28152 10m 24m S 0.0 4.2 0:08.78 kdeinit
The various X applications send requests to your X server that executes them. In a way, the X server "bundles" the load but it really originates from other applications. I can see that you run Star/Open Office and Firefox. I wouldn't call these light weight applications. That "kontact" also looks like a memory eater, and if system load and memory footprint is an issue for you, than KDE is maybe not the best of a choice for a window manager. Anyway, you stress your X server and that's why your X server stresses your machine. ;-) Guido -- Imperia AG, Development Leyboldstr. 10 - D-50354 Hürth - http://www.imperia.net/
Le Jeudi 24 Février 2005 10:51, Guido Flohr a écrit :
Hi,
Fred wrote:
For example today it is using 60% of my CPU and I do not know why.... PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5160 root 16 0 114m 11m 84m S 66.8 4.7 42:44.18 X 5884 fred 16 0 51848 15m 44m S 19.4 6.1 12:18.35 amarokapp 6724 fred 15 0 97400 39m 42m S 0.0 15.7 6:58.53 firefox-bin 5767 fred -51 0 21636 6232 14m S 3.5 2.4 2:55.46 artsd 10046 fred 15 0 150m 22m 112m S 0.0 9.0 1:04.25 soffice.bin 5907 fred 15 0 71148 38m 42m S 0.0 15.3 0:49.79 kontact 5848 fred 16 0 30968 11m 26m S 0.0 4.7 0:11.77 kdeinit 5988 fred 16 0 42240 14m 33m S 0.0 5.8 0:09.02 kdeinit 5786 fred 15 0 28152 10m 24m S 0.0 4.2 0:08.78 kdeinit
The various X applications send requests to your X server that executes them. In a way, the X server "bundles" the load but it really originates from other applications.
I can see that you run Star/Open Office and Firefox. I wouldn't call these light weight applications. That "kontact" also looks like a memory eater, and if system load and memory footprint is an issue for you, than KDE is maybe not the best of a choice for a window manager.
are suggesting that the default Suse desktop (KDE) is not the one they should use ? I think it is a very good, integrated and user friendly desktop env I know Firefox and OpenOffice are memory consumers, but I think the problem is coming from Amarok, when I closed it the problem disapearred. I'll report this problem to amarok developpers
On Thursday 24 February 2005 12:50 pm, Fred wrote:
are suggesting that the default Suse desktop (KDE) is not the one they should use ? I think it is a very good, integrated and user friendly desktop env
The things that make KDE nice are often the things that make it slow. Then again, on my new machine, I'm running KDE and firefox, and my wife's logged in from an X terminal running gnome and another instance of firefox, Open office is also running on her machine, as well as kmail, abiword, k3b, and xmms on mine - not to mention all of the desktop/taskbar applets we're both using. It all fits in the 512MB of system memory (-16MB for on-board video), and the 5-minute load's 0.03 to .18 with both of us running stuff Oh, yeah, the new machine's running Gentoo, with everything compiled using -Os (and a few other more obscure flags). I don't know what SuSE does when they build stuff, but on similar hardware, it's noticeably slower with just one user. On a lightweight machine, SuSE may not be the best choice... Anyway, back on-topic, KDE's nice - if you have the horsepower to run it. Even with the candy turned off, though, it's a bit of a pig compared to other environments / window managers - both in terms of CPU and memory consumed. It's the default on SuSE because SuSE pays the salaries of lots of the developers, and it therefore works well with SuSE. So, it's a good starting point in the common case - a fast machine with a good amount of RAM. --Danny, who knows flamebait when he types it. ;)
At the beginning I tested the Photocamera nikon d100 with suse 9,0 and all was ok, when I upgraded to suse 9.1 I had a problem because when i plugged the camera I had a signal error. When I upgraded to suse 9.2 I hopped that the problem will be solved , but I had a new problem! now I don't have e signal error when I plug the camera, but the xterm, konqueror an the keyboard are stopped, when I turn off the camera all are ok. I tested also the list of the cameras in gphoto2 --list cameras and there is the nikon listed in this mode "nikon DSC D100 (PTP mode)". There is same settings that can I do? I don't know (TPT mode) , there is same frien that can help me ? Thank you very much Ugo De Marinis demarini1@mclink.it
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 22:46, Fred wrote:
Hi,
everyday I thank great developpers of X11.org for giving us such good graphic environnement. But sometimes I think X11 is really to "heavy"
For example today it is using 60% of my CPU and I do not know why.... PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5160 root 16 0 114m 11m 84m S 66.8 4.7 42:44.18 X 5884 fred 16 0 51848 15m 44m S 19.4 6.1 12:18.35 amarokapp 6724 fred 15 0 97400 39m 42m S 0.0 15.7 6:58.53 firefox-bin 5767 fred -51 0 21636 6232 14m S 3.5 2.4 2:55.46 artsd 10046 fred 15 0 150m 22m 112m S 0.0 9.0 1:04.25 soffice.bin 5907 fred 15 0 71148 38m 42m S 0.0 15.3 0:49.79 kontact 5848 fred 16 0 30968 11m 26m S 0.0 4.7 0:11.77 kdeinit 5988 fred 16 0 42240 14m 33m S 0.0 5.8 0:09.02 kdeinit 5786 fred 15 0 28152 10m 24m S 0.0 4.2 0:08.78 kdeinit
What the hell is it doing ??
artsd uses 3.5% CPU power, amarokapp uses almost 20% CPU power, X uses almost 67% CPU power. I guess that all this CPU power consumption is caused by amarok. Even those 67% that X consumes, can be caused by calls generated by amarok. To prove that, all you need to do is stop amarok. The CPU power consumption of artsd, amarokapp and X should drop *significantly*. Cheers, Leen
Le Jeudi 24 Février 2005 12:35, Leendert Meyer a écrit :
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 22:46, Fred wrote:
Hi,
everyday I thank great developpers of X11.org for giving us such good graphic environnement. But sometimes I think X11 is really to "heavy"
For example today it is using 60% of my CPU and I do not know why.... PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5160 root 16 0 114m 11m 84m S 66.8 4.7 42:44.18 X 5884 fred 16 0 51848 15m 44m S 19.4 6.1 12:18.35 amarokapp 6724 fred 15 0 97400 39m 42m S 0.0 15.7 6:58.53 firefox-bin 5767 fred -51 0 21636 6232 14m S 3.5 2.4 2:55.46 artsd 10046 fred 15 0 150m 22m 112m S 0.0 9.0 1:04.25 soffice.bin 5907 fred 15 0 71148 38m 42m S 0.0 15.3 0:49.79 kontact 5848 fred 16 0 30968 11m 26m S 0.0 4.7 0:11.77 kdeinit 5988 fred 16 0 42240 14m 33m S 0.0 5.8 0:09.02 kdeinit 5786 fred 15 0 28152 10m 24m S 0.0 4.2 0:08.78 kdeinit
What the hell is it doing ??
artsd uses 3.5% CPU power, amarokapp uses almost 20% CPU power, X uses almost 67% CPU power.
I guess that all this CPU power consumption is caused by amarok. Even those 67% that X consumes, can be caused by calls generated by amarok.
To prove that, all you need to do is stop amarok. The CPU power consumption of artsd, amarokapp and X should drop *significantly*. You were definitely right !
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