Hello SuSe people New install of SuSE 8.0 Previously ran 7.0 & 7.2 successfully with this modem. Had to configure my 3Com/USRobotics 56K internal modem manually because Yast2 would not do it. I finally have the modem connecting to my ISP. WVdial only as root and drops out immediately after connecting. PPP as users and root and will stay connected. Root can initialize a program such as Konqueror and acees the internet. Users cannot initialize any programs. Konq, ftp, Kmail, etc. Get a message like "Host Netscape.com cannot be found" This whole thing is driving me crazy. My brain is fried. I am missing something very obvious. So near, and yet so far. I will be happy to get either of them working let alone both. Please put me back on the right track. Bob S.
R. Stia wrote:
Hello SuSe people
New install of SuSE 8.0 Previously ran 7.0 & 7.2 successfully with this modem.
Had to configure my 3Com/USRobotics 56K internal modem manually because Yast2 would not do it. I finally have the modem connecting to my ISP. WVdial only as root and drops out immediately after connecting. PPP as users and root and will stay connected. Root can initialize a program such as Konqueror and acees the internet. Users cannot initialize any programs. Konq, ftp, Kmail, etc. Get a message like "Host Netscape.com cannot be found"
This whole thing is driving me crazy. My brain is fried. I am missing something very obvious. So near, and yet so far. I will be happy to get either of them working let alone both.
Please put me back on the right track.
Bob S.
In SuSE 8 when you enter the details for the modem and ISP during the installation procedure these details are NOT entered into wvdial.conf file in /etc. If you want wvdial to work then you have to (as root) edit this file and enter the details. Once you do this wvdial will work for you as a user. Re ppp (kppp), I find this piece of software to be suddeny "flacky" under SuSE 8. It sometimes works but more often than not it only wastes the cost of several phone calls with no results. Most of the time after kppp dials and a connection is made to the ISP's modem I get the message "kppp timed out", or similar. By then switching to wvdial I get a proper connection to my ISP. Why this happens I just don't know. (And unfortunately I cannot find the config file where I could increase the timeout period for kppp.) Now, from your comment it seems that you are using Netscape. Again, for some reason in SuSE 8 one cannot start up the webbrowser and then call the ISP -- one has to do the reverse for the browser to work: connect first and then fire up the browser (I use Mozilla) otherwise you will get the message you are getting. Cheers.
Basil Chupin wrote:
R. Stia wrote:
Hello SuSe people
New install of SuSE 8.0 Previously ran 7.0 & 7.2 successfully with this modem.
Had to configure my 3Com/USRobotics 56K internal modem manually because Yast2 would not do it. I finally have the modem connecting to my ISP. WVdial works only as root and drops out immediately after connecting. PPP works as users and root and will stay connected. Root can initialize a program such as Konqueror and access the internet. Users cannot initialize any programs. Konq, ftp, Kmail, etc. Get a message like "Host Netscape.com cannot be found" ......<snip>.......
In SuSE 8 when you enter the details for the modem and ISP during the installation procedure these details are NOT entered into wvdial.conf file in /etc. If you want wvdial to work then you have to (as root) edit this file and enter the details. Once you do this wvdial will work for you as a user.
Basil, Yes, that is true except it will not work. Edited wvdial.conf by hand & entered all necessary parameters. As root it will connect, but then immediately disconnects.
Re ppp (kppp), I find this piece of software to be suddeny "flacky" under SuSE 8. ........<snip>.........(And unfortunately I cannot find the config file where I could increase the timeout period for kppp.)
Perhaps I can help you here. Go to /etc/ppp/options.....last line "idle" change it to what you want.
Now, from your comment it seems that you are using Netscape. Again, for some reason in SuSE 8 one cannot start up the webbrowser and then call the ISP -- one has to do the reverse for the browser to work: connect first and then fire up the browser (I use Mozilla) otherwise you will get the message you are getting.
Thanks for the advice. Don't use Netscape. But it happens with every program, Kmail, FTP program, Konqueror or any other. Doesn't matter if I dial up first or last when loading a program. Happens under either condition.
R. Stia wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
R. Stia wrote:
Hello SuSe people
New install of SuSE 8.0 Previously ran 7.0 & 7.2 successfully with this modem.
Had to configure my 3Com/USRobotics 56K internal modem manually because Yast2 would not do it. I finally have the modem connecting to my ISP. WVdial works only as root and drops out immediately after connecting. PPP works as users and root and will stay connected. Root can initialize a program such as Konqueror and access the internet. Users cannot initialize any programs. Konq, ftp, Kmail, etc. Get a message like "Host Netscape.com cannot be found" ......<snip>.......
In SuSE 8 when you enter the details for the modem and ISP during the installation procedure these details are NOT entered into wvdial.conf file in /etc. If you want wvdial to work then you have to (as root) edit this file and enter the details. Once you do this wvdial will work for you as a user.
Basil, Yes, that is true except it will not work. Edited wvdial.conf by hand & entered all necessary parameters. As root it will connect, but then immediately disconnects.
Some confusion here perhaps. I did say that you have to edit it as root but then it will work for you as user. I can assure you that it does work when I use it to logon to my ISP as a user (and not as root). If you are trying to use it as root and get disconnected immediately after donncdt, it sounds like the authentication process fails and you get dropped.
Re ppp (kppp), I find this piece of software to be suddeny "flacky" under SuSE 8. ........<snip>.........(And unfortunately I cannot find the config file where I could increase the timeout period for kppp.)
Perhaps I can help you here. Go to /etc/ppp/options.....last line "idle" change it to what you want.
Ah now, that's interesting. Many thanks for this information, I'll now go and look at this setting.
Now, from your comment it seems that you are using Netscape. Again, for some reason in SuSE 8 one cannot start up the webbrowser and then call the ISP -- one has to do the reverse for the browser to work: connect first and then fire up the browser (I use Mozilla) otherwise you will get the message you are getting.
Thanks for the advice. Don't use Netscape. But it happens with every program, Kmail, FTP program, Konqueror or any other. Doesn't matter if I dial up first or last when loading a program. Happens under either condition.
Hmm. Start from the beginning and carefully check the settings for your modem and the details for your ISP connection. Look for typos and expecially that your password has the correct caps/lower case (if used) in the correct places. I hae Win4Lin installed and couldn't properly access one of my Windows partitions; took me close to 3 hours to find the reason for this problem which was caused by a simple typo in fstab :-(. Cheers.
I had a few problems with dial up access with SuSE the first thing I tried was uninstalling the kinternet app which is aimed at DSL users Secondly SuSE is by default set up for timed local calls and per byte charges by the ISP. here in Australia thankfully these things don't apply ( for dial ups anyway) So I copied the /etc/ppp/options file to /etc/ppp/original_options and simply created an empty options file. Works for me just fine now using kppp BTW. Just one niggling thing tho' I still miss the ability to log out of and login again while maintaining a dial up connection which is useful if you share a computer. Mandrake will do this but I have yet to work out how to do it in SuSE. :-( On Saturday 22 June 2002 12:27, R. Stia wrote:
Hello SuSe people
New install of SuSE 8.0 Previously ran 7.0 & 7.2 successfully with this modem.
Had to configure my 3Com/USRobotics 56K internal modem manually because Yast2 would not do it. I finally have the modem connecting to my ISP. WVdial only as root and drops out immediately after connecting. PPP as users and root and will stay connected. Root can initialize a program such as Konqueror and acees the internet. Users cannot initialize any programs. Konq, ftp, Kmail, etc. Get a message like "Host Netscape.com cannot be found"
This whole thing is driving me crazy. My brain is fried. I am missing something very obvious. So near, and yet so far. I will be happy to get either of them working let alone both.
Please put me back on the right track.
Bob S.
I had a few problems with dial up access with SuSE the first thing I tried was uninstalling the kinternet app which is aimed at DSL users Secondly SuSE is by default set up for timed local calls and per byte charges by the ISP. here in Australia thankfully these things don't apply ( for dial ups anyway) So I copied the /etc/ppp/options file to /etc/ppp/original_options and simply created an empty options file. Works for me just fine now using kppp BTW. Just one niggling thing tho' I still miss the ability to log out of and login again while maintaining a dial up connection which is useful if you share a computer. Mandrake will do this but I have yet to work out how to do it in SuSE. :-(
On Saturday 22 June 2002 12:27, R. Stia wrote:
Hello SuSe people
New install of SuSE 8.0 Previously ran 7.0 & 7.2 successfully with this modem.
Had to configure my 3Com/USRobotics 56K internal modem manually because Yast2 would not do it. I finally have the modem connecting to my ISP. WVdial only as root and drops out immediately after connecting. PPP as users and root and will stay connected. Root can initialize a program such as Konqueror and acees the internet. Users cannot initialize any programs. Konq, ftp, Kmail, etc. Get a message like "Host Netscape.com cannot be found"
This whole thing is driving me crazy. My brain is fried. I am missing something very obvious. So near, and yet so far. I will be happy to get either of them working let alone both.
Please put me back on the right track.
Bob S.
I am not sure if I understand your problem correctly but why don't you
Robert wrote: try something like Mozilla where you can set up multiple profiles, one for each member of the family. Just logout from one profile and restart another copy of Mozilla while maintaining the connection to the ISP. Of course, you will still be connected to the ISP in your name - and is this where I am misunderstanding your problem? Cheers.
On Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:03, Robert wrote:
I had a few problems with dial up access with SuSE the first thing I tried was uninstalling the kinternet app which is aimed at DSL users I didn't know that! I have dial up (DSL is way out of my budget) and always used kinternet without any problems.
Secondly SuSE is by default set up for timed local calls Is that true? All this time I was under the impression that the timed call is a function of the ISP, not the OS or the phone company. AFAIK, in this part of Florida, I can stay on the phone (voice or data) for as long as I want. Just two days ago, I d'd a kernel; the downloading alone, not counting the 2 or 3 minutes to get it started, took 01h 28m 43s.
Always learning something! -- Regards, gr, in /usually/ sunny, balmy Florida's Suncoast.
On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 09:41, gilson redrick wrote:
On Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:03, Robert wrote:
Secondly SuSE is by default set up for timed local calls Is that true? All this time I was under the impression that the timed call is a function of the ISP, not the OS or the phone company. AFAIK, in this part
It's not as weird as it sounds. Under SuSE, wvdial.conf is set with the default parameter: Idle Seconds = 180 So if you're sitting online for 3 minutes reading Slashdot, the modem will hang up. I find 3 minutes too short, so I changed this setting to 1800 seconds (that is, 30 minutes). Interestingly, by default RedHat does not set anything for idle seconds, so you could fall asleep while web surfing and wake up the next morning with 8 hours of idle time that you'll be charged for. Where I live (Taiwan) we pay per minute for both the phone call and the online connect time, so remaining online while idle can get expensive. And of course, with a cellular modem it could get REALLY expensive. - Robert Storey
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