SuSE 8 - Do I need the windows partition?
I am groping my way through learning Linux, and have a small network of Windows NT PC's, with an ADSL connection. I now have SuSE Linux 8 installed on a PC connected to the LAN. This PC was setup with a small (2Gb) NT4 partition, and the remaining 18Gb for SuSE. I am still struggling with Samba, printing, and other issues, but can use Konqueror to browse the net from SuSE. I have a number of programs that I use under windows, they may or may not run under Linux using Wine...that remains to be tested. My aim would be to move totally to Linux if I can. Now the question is, do I need to keep the NT4 partition on this Linux box to be able to test my windows application software? John
I was trying to run some windows programs under wine, but they were not compatible. I sent email to the Wine list and to win4lin. Unless the program will run under Win95-98, forget it for the present. Win4Lin told me that Win2K, which would also mean NT4, would be supported later this year. Depends on the program whether will run under wine. Apparently, most MS office programs will, but I was trying to use Winedit and some cad programs, which run presently under win98, but will not support win98 on the next release. I did not have success with any of them. Art -----Original Message----- From: John Blue [mailto:jblue@bestpond.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:20 PM To: suse-linux-e Subject: [SLE] SuSE 8 - Do I need the windows partition? I am groping my way through learning Linux, and have a small network of Windows NT PC's, with an ADSL connection. I now have SuSE Linux 8 installed on a PC connected to the LAN. This PC was setup with a small (2Gb) NT4 partition, and the remaining 18Gb for SuSE. I am still struggling with Samba, printing, and other issues, but can use Konqueror to browse the net from SuSE. I have a number of programs that I use under windows, they may or may not run under Linux using Wine...that remains to be tested. My aim would be to move totally to Linux if I can. Now the question is, do I need to keep the NT4 partition on this Linux box to be able to test my windows application software? John -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
I was trying to run some windows programs under wine, but they were not compatible. I sent email to the Wine list and to win4lin. Unless the program will run under Win95-98, forget it for the present. Win4Lin told me that Win2K, which would also mean NT4, would be supported later this year. Depends on the program whether will run under wine. Apparently, most MS office programs will, but I was trying to use Winedit and some cad programs, which run presently under win98, but will not support win98 on the next release. I did not have success with any of them.
Art
Thanks Art, The programs I need to use will all run under W95-W2K . I have already switched to Open Office for general use, but the ones I will need to test are more specialised. Eg: one is my genealogy research software (The Master Genealogist). John
-----Original Message----- From: John Blue [mailto:jblue@bestpond.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:20 PM To: suse-linux-e Subject: [SLE] SuSE 8 - Do I need the windows partition?
I am groping my way through learning Linux, and have a small network of Windows NT PC's, with an ADSL connection.
I now have SuSE Linux 8 installed on a PC connected to the LAN. This PC was setup with a small (2Gb) NT4 partition, and the remaining 18Gb for SuSE. I am still struggling with Samba, printing, and other issues, but can use Konqueror to browse the net from SuSE.
I have a number of programs that I use under windows, they may or may not run under Linux using Wine...that remains to be tested. My aim would be to move totally to Linux if I can.
Now the question is, do I need to keep the NT4 partition on this Linux box to be able to test my windows application software?
John
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At the present time, WINE (& CrossoverOffice) are not 100%. For Win9x, Win4Lin provides a solution and will run most Windows 9x programs. VMWare is a higher cost solution than Win4Lin, but does support NT, Win2K and WinXP. However, these solutions fail to provide software vendors any incentive to port their code to native Linux (and Unix). A few years ago before I converted my systems to Linux, the only application that held me back was Quicken. I eventually found Moneydance. On 27 Jun 2002 at 16:26, John Blue wrote:
The programs I need to use will all run under W95-W2K . I have already switched to Open Office for general use, but the ones I will need to test are more specialised. Eg: one is my genealogy research software (The Master Genealogist).
-- Jerry Feldman Enterprise Systems Group Hewlett-Packard Company 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/
On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:19, Jerry Feldman wrote:
At the present time, WINE (& CrossoverOffice) are not 100%. For Win9x, Win4Lin provides a solution and will run most Windows 9x programs. VMWare is a higher cost solution than Win4Lin, but does support NT, Win2K and WinXP. However, these solutions fail to provide software vendors any incentive to port their code to native Linux (and Unix). A few years ago before I converted my systems to Linux, the only application that held me back was Quicken. I eventually found Moneydance.
How true Jerry, providing true native Linux software is the only way Linux will ever be a serious desktop operating system. As much as I love Linux I often ask myself why do I run two operating systems? Years ago the Amiga OS and then IBM's OS were better alternative desktop systems then Windows. So what was lacking in these advanced alternatives to Windows, software applications. In Linux supporting projects that run Windows applications we are just shouting, yes Linux is great only if you use Microsoft or Win related programs! Don't get me wrong here of course we want programs to be able to save files in variety of different formats. Just the main application has to be a true Linux application. -- "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost
On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:19, Jerry Feldman wrote:
At the present time, WINE (& CrossoverOffice) are not 100%. For Win9x, Win4Lin provides a solution and will run most Windows 9x programs. VMWare is a higher cost solution than Win4Lin, but does support NT, Win2K and WinXP. However, these solutions fail to provide software vendors any incentive to port their code to native Linux (and Unix). A few years ago before I converted my systems to Linux, the only application that held me back was Quicken. I eventually found Moneydance.
Thanks for those comments, my aim is to really drop the need for any version of windows eventually. I will check moneydance, as I have an accounting need as well (although Australian bookkeeping doesn't always fit easily with some packages).
How true Jerry, providing true native Linux software is the only way Linux will ever be a serious desktop operating system. As much as I love Linux I often ask myself why do I run two operating systems? Years ago the Amiga OS and then IBM's OS were better alternative desktop systems then Windows. So what was lacking in these advanced alternatives to Windows, software applications. In Linux supporting projects that run Windows applications we are just shouting, yes Linux is great only if you use Microsoft or Win related programs! Don't get me wrong here of course we want programs to be able to save files in variety of different formats. Just the main application has to be a true Linux application.
A good point, it is a pity however, that a lot of the development tools seem to be biased towards the M$ windows environment, or do I have the wrong perception here. Thanks for the comments, John
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Fact, Microsoft Windows has the giant market share. If you had a product you were devloping, where would you target it. From that context, develop to the Windows environment, then port to the other environments, Macintosh, Unix and Linux. There are some good native Linux products that use the WINE libraries although they are native. Most developers just don't have the time or inclination to move from Windows. It's either too much trouble or too costly. If I were developing an application from scratch, I personally would make that application portable (partially because I've been involved with porting some rather unportable applications). While WINE tries to allow a Windows executable run on a Linux box, the WINE libraries do allow a developer to build a Linux executable. This is quite a distinction. On 28 Jun 2002 at 6:56, John Blue wrote:
A good point, it is a pity however, that a lot of the development tools seem to be biased towards the M$ windows environment, or do I have the wrong perception here.
-- Jerry Feldman Enterprise Systems Group Hewlett-Packard Company 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/
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