* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [01-14-12 11:24]:

* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> [01-14-12 11:18]:

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I am trying to install the free VLC media player by the one-click method. All goes well until a message appears telling me that "Nothing provides lib.ass.so....."

A Google search for this library brings up a list of hits of pornographic sites (and who could be surprised?).

What can I do to complete the installation?

from a text console as root: zypper -v in vlc

will provide dependencies or advise of missing which means you don't have required repos enabled. But searching "software.opensuse.org/search" will be fruitless until they repair the opensuse buildservice servers Monday AM.

ps: Just check vlc requirements, rpm -q --requires vlc, and no "lib.ass.*" is shown for openSUSE 12.1. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> [01-14-12 12:28]:

On Saturday 14 January 2012 18:22:30 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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from a text console as root: zypper -v in vlc

Thanks, Patrick. That was all it took, and I have a DVD playing now.

I neglected to mention that you need to have the vlc repo configured or you will get the crippled (digital-wrongs-manipulation) version that openSUSE has to ship due to local laws. gud luk, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> [01-14-12 16:32]:

The VLC repo is present: <http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/11.4/> Is that as it should be?

should be: http://packman.inode.at/suse/11.4/ use packman repos rather than videolan. They are better integrated.

Tomorrow I will try to search Google for what is crippled on this version.

The packman (and the videolan) version is *not* crippled. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Saturday 14 January 2012 23:58:26 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [01-14-12 16:56]:

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* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> [01-14-12 16:32]:

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The VLC repo is present: <http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/11.4/> Is that as it should be?

should be: http://packman.inode.at/suse/11.4/

use packman repos rather than videolan. They are better integrated.

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Tomorrow I will try to search Google for what is crippled on this version.

The packman (and the videolan) version is *not* crippled.

That was a response to your earlier comment: "I neglected to mention that you need to have the vlc repo configured or you will get the crippled (digital-wrongs-manipulation) version that openSUSE has to ship due to local laws." Now I have reread it more carefully; what it seems to be saying is that I need to keep the existing vlc repo in addition to adding packman.inode.at/suse/11.4. Am I know reading it correctly?

ps: to correct zypper -v dup --from "Packman Repository"

There are mentions of a zypper bug connected with zypper dup in 11.4. Might that affect the zypper operations that you have suggested?

may even fix your audio probs {:^)

-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sunday 15 January 2012 14:41:22 Mark Goldstein wrote:

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Stan Goodman

<stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:

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On Saturday 14 January 2012 23:58:26 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [01-14-12 16:56]:

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* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> [01-14-12 16:32]: ...

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That was a response to your earlier comment: "I neglected to mention that you need to have the vlc repo configured or you will get the crippled (digital-wrongs-manipulation) version that openSUSE has to ship due to local laws." Now I have reread it more carefully; what it seems to be saying is that I need to keep the existing vlc repo in addition to adding packman.inode.at/suse/11.4. Am I know reading it correctly?

No, you have to remove/disable vlc repo and use packman only. There are conflicts (at least there were in the past) between packman version and original version.

Thanks. I thought the sentence seemed ambiguos, and that it was better to resolve the apparent ambiguity than to wish later that I had.

Regards,

-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:24 PM Mark Goldstein wrote:

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Stan Goodman

<stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:

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On Sunday 15 January 2012 14:41:22 Mark Goldstein wrote:

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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Stan Goodman

<stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:

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On Saturday 14 January 2012 23:58:26 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [01-14-12 16:56]:

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* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> [01-14-12 16:32]: ...

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That was a response to your earlier comment: "I neglected to mention that you need to have the vlc repo configured or you will get the crippled (digital-wrongs-manipulation) version that openSUSE has to ship due to local laws." Now I have reread it more carefully; what it seems to be saying is that I need to keep the existing vlc repo in addition to adding packman.inode.at/suse/11.4. Am I know reading it correctly?

No, you have to remove/disable vlc repo and use packman only. There are conflicts (at least there were in the past) between packman version and original version.

Thanks. I thought the sentence seemed ambiguos, and that it was better to resolve the apparent ambiguity than to wish later that I had.

As for libdvdcss - this is really strange. I do not have videolan repository, but I have libdvdcss2 package, that has "pm" in its version. rpm -qi libdvdcss2 indicates

Packager : packman@links2linux.de Vendor : http://packman.links2linux.de URL : http://www.videolan.org/libdvdcss/

So not sure where did it come from.

Good catch. It should actually be libdvdcss2. IIRC it was once available from packman. But now AFAIK it is only available from the videolan repo. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sunday 15 January 2012 19:47:50 Dennis Gallien wrote: -----snip-----

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As for libdvdcss - this is really strange. I do not have videolan repository, but I have libdvdcss2 package, that has "pm" in its version. rpm -qi libdvdcss2 indicates

Packager : packman@links2linux.de Vendor : http://packman.links2linux.de URL : http://www.videolan.org/libdvdcss/

So not sure where did it come from.

Good catch. It should actually be libdvdcss2. IIRC it was once available from packman. But now AFAIK it is only available from the videolan repo.

I have it too, although libdvdcss is gone (but I have its tar.gz archive) since I have executed the zypper operation. According to Software Management, libdvdcss2 is for encrypted DVDs (no mention of unencrypted ones). -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Stan Goodman wrote: [..]

openSUSE has to ship due to local laws." Now I have reread it more carefully; what it seems to be saying is that I need to keep the existing vlc repo in addition to adding packman.inode.at/suse/11.4. Am I know reading it correctly?

If you're careful, yes, you can keep both repos, but you should prioritize one repo (I vote for packman) over the other, e.g. let videolan at the default priority of 99 and give packman e.g. a priority of 80. That way, you won't pingpong e.g. 'vlc' between packman and videolan and you should also get all libs from the same repo. With one exception: packman doesn't package libcss. So get that from videolan and the rest from packman. If you want to prefer the videolan repo, give that the prio of 80 and leave packman at 99, and get vlc and the libs videolan packages from the videolan-repo. But be aware that that may cause trouble with other programs (e.g. mplayer, xine, ...) that also use that lib but that videolan does not package. The problem is that those programs and the libs (most critically ffmpeg, i.e. libavcode, libavformat etc.) are rather snugly intertwined. So much so, that e.g. handbrake brings it's own copy of ffmpeg and other stuff and links that statically. So, again, in a nutshell, my recommendation: - add videolan with prio 99 - add packman with prio 80 - install vlc (from packman) - install (only) libcss from videolan HTH, -dnh -- Why do you focus so much on _new_ technology? -- New is better. Is nothink old that is better than new. -- Yes there is. -- Da? Namink one then. -- The Original Pentium versus counting on your fingers. -- Da. Da. "Don't divide. Intel inside" [Sid & Pitr in userfriendly] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Dennis Gallien wrote:

Re the audio issue, I've had a problem with both packman and vlc versions not being able to grab the audio device after a xine application has run. I can't find a process holding the device. I suppose it's possible this is because I'm using the xine phonon backend (I just can't gstreamer working). In any event, there is a conflict somewhere regardless of vlc version.

Hah, that one's easy: use neither :P $ grep -i alsa ~/.xine/config ~/.mplayer/config ~/.config/vlc/vlcrc /home/dh/.xine/config:audio.driver:alsa /home/dh/.mplayer/config:ao=alsa /home/dh/.config/vlc/vlcrc:aout=alsa With that, I can play the very same file in all three players at the same time; depending on offset, it's a cacophony, but it's very clear that each player's sound is output and mixed correctly by alsa. The only thing that I occasionally miss (to some extent) and what I'm told pulseaudio can do is a "per app volume setting". Apart from that: I don't need no gstreamer,phonon,pulseaudio or whatever. Plain ALSA suffices. Oh, and BTW: I use the "GKrellM Volume Plugin 2.1.x" as a "mixer". Just what I need in a configurable part of screen estate, in my case it's about 100x50px...

Oh, btw, that should be libdvdcss, not libcss.

Whatever. That lib, ya know, *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* ;) Just as you purportedly need that other lib to play those other flat round thingies read with a bluish laser... I have neither player for those nor any of those non-floppies. Yet. -dnh -- The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Dennis Gallien wrote:

On Sunday, January 15, 2012 01:00 PM David Haller wrote:

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Hah, that one's easy: use neither :P

$ grep -i alsa ~/.xine/config ~/.mplayer/config ~/.config/vlc/vlcrc /home/dh/.xine/config:audio.driver:alsa /home/dh/.mplayer/config:ao=alsa /home/dh/.config/vlc/vlcrc:aout=alsa

With that, I can play the very same file in all three players at the same time; depending on offset, it's a cacophony, but it's very clear that each player's sound is output and mixed correctly by alsa.

The only thing that I occasionally miss (to some extent) and what I'm told pulseaudio can do is a "per app volume setting". Apart from that: I don't need no gstreamer,phonon,pulseaudio or whatever. Plain ALSA suffices.

Oh, and BTW: I use the "GKrellM Volume Plugin 2.1.x" as a "mixer". Just what I need in a configurable part of screen estate, in my case it's about 100x50px...

That's great. Questions, if ya don't mind, I have zero experience with this . . .

The error I get from vlc is that device hw:0,0 is not available. In the config file I've got:

alsa-audio-device=hw:0,0 . . #aout=

There's probably something (phonon, pulseuadio) claiming that device.

So just changing the aout parm to alsa will fix that, or do I need to do something with the audio-device as well? And in xine's config?

Once you kill that "other" device hogging process: yes.

Re the mixer, would Kmix still work? Or should I use Kamix or one of the other alsa mixers? Does the mixer need to be configured in the config files, too?

I know that kmix, kamix and qamix still work. They just need too much screen estate. Install and run gkrellm and that plugin. I use the brnGradien Theme. But concerning screen realestate the theme doesn't matter, AFAIK. Anyway: run gklrellm, and with the (in my case) only needed bars for Master, PCM and Line, thats 3 lines of ~100px width of ~8pt text plus "scrollbars". Configure away, use qamix, whatever ;)

Finally, then what do you have configured under KDE's Phonon backend?

I didn't even install phonon (or as little as possible) and it ist completely ignored. $ rpm -qa '*phonon*' libphonon4-4.4.4-3.1.x86_64 phonon-backend-xine-4.4.4-3.1.x86_64 phonon-4.4.4-3.1.x86_64 Some KDE aps I do want to use won't run without certain libraries installed.

Or doesn't it matter? (And I assume then that KDE notifications and the like still work?)

I have no idea about that. I actively avoid KDE since KDE 1.1.2 in 2001 whereever I can. If you're looking for someone calling KDE3 "bad", I'm not your man. but KDE2 was crap. About KDE3, I've done a few tryouts, nothing stubstatiated. LXDE (as in knoppix)? *yech* Gnome2 light? XFCE? Go along, nothing to see here.... GTK1/2 sucks a lot in and as of itself. Cue Fileselection-Dialogs *blech* (don't worry, the QT dialogs are on par). I kind of HATE KDE. And Gnome too. I use WindowMaker since 2001. IIRC I had to adjust WindowMaker's configuration due to an update once in those 10 years (what's your experience with e.g. kdepim? Since 2001!?). And simply ignore that fancy GUI stuff. My filemanager is mc in an xterm... Notifications? Well, guess what the 'at'-deamon atd is for. And/or crond for repeating jobs like alerting you that tomorrow is your nieces birthday (or whatever). Via mail. Or other means. -dnh, oh, and then there's the analog alarm-clock at my bedside ... -- Not a bad machine overall; the token flaw was that after a few months of use, the left button on the pointing device decided that it felt down. Depressed, as it were. All the time. -- Dan Birchall -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sunday, January 15, 2012 06:19 PM David Haller wrote:

Hello,

[snip] Thx much David. Very helpful. --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org