Hi, Just did a 9.2 to 9.3 Upgrade and there was a snag that is a show stopper. I have one 160GB ATA HD divided thus: /dev/hda1 SWAP /dev/hda2 / /dev/hda3 home but at the end of the upgrade the new 9.3 cannot find the 9.2 home and made a new one under /. The newly booted sys says: Could not start kstartup.conf and then it aborts. This refers to the 9.2 user data, i'm sure. If I log on as root it works as expected. The partition that had home now has my old home users directories, so the data is not lost. But how can I get the new 9.3 system to allow my old default user to logon? PeterB -- -- Proud to use SuSE Linux, since 5.2 Loving using SuSE Linux 9.1 MyBlog http://vancampen.org/blog/ Currently listening to Joseph Campbell http://www.jcf.org/ Free D/Ls after free registration --
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 08:17:11PM -0500, Peter B Van Campen wrote:
Hi,
Just did a 9.2 to 9.3 Upgrade and there was a snag that is a show stopper.
I have one 160GB ATA HD divided thus:
/dev/hda1 SWAP /dev/hda2 / /dev/hda3 home
but at the end of the upgrade the new 9.3 cannot find the 9.2 home and made a new one under /.
Same on my 9.2 to 9.3 upgrade. I have found now that I can't add any users using yast, it thinks /home is not writeable. However, the underlying mount point has 0777 permissions, and the /home filesystem when mounted is 0755 permissions. As root, if I cd into /home (with it mounted), and try "touch foo", it will either hang or segfault. Very wierd. I booted into rescue and reiserfsck'd all of the filesystems, and they're all OK. This has gotta be some kind of bug, but in what I don't know. Michael -- San Francisco, CA
On 4/21/05, Michael Nelson
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 08:17:11PM -0500, Peter B Van Campen wrote:
Hi,
Just did a 9.2 to 9.3 Upgrade and there was a snag that is a show stopper.
I have one 160GB ATA HD divided thus:
/dev/hda1 SWAP /dev/hda2 / /dev/hda3 home
but at the end of the upgrade the new 9.3 cannot find the 9.2 home and made a new one under /.
Same on my 9.2 to 9.3 upgrade. I have found now that I can't add any users using yast, it thinks /home is not writeable. However, the underlying mount point has 0777 permissions, and the /home filesystem when mounted is 0755 permissions.
As root, if I cd into /home (with it mounted), and try "touch foo", it will either hang or segfault.
Very wierd.
I booted into rescue and reiserfsck'd all of the filesystems, and they're all OK.
This has gotta be some kind of bug, but in what I don't know.
Michael
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San Francisco, CA
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Is it just me or what? I'm getting the impression that with every new version of SuSE (after 9.1) things are going awry. Sure, there will be little niggles after all, I wouldn't expect any software maker to be able to test for every eventuality. But these are fairly basic errors that just should not be occurring. What's going on? I have to admit that I'm still not 100% happy with 9.2 and may well revert back to 9.1 I was going to get 9.3 but I'm really not sure whether I should. I'm sorry but I shouldn't, as an end user feel this way. It reminds me too much of the bad old M$ days (they have improved greatly). -- Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Is it just me or what? I'm getting the impression that with every new version of SuSE (after 9.1) things are going awry. Sure, there will be little niggles after all, I wouldn't expect any software maker to be able to test for every eventuality. But these are fairly basic errors that just should not be occurring. What's going on? I have to admit that I'm still not 100% happy with 9.2 and may well revert back to 9.1 I was going to get 9.3 but I'm really not sure whether I should. I'm sorry but I shouldn't, as an end user feel this way. It reminds me too much of the bad old M$ days (they have improved greatly).
Don't forget that you are seeing only a few posts of people having problems... those of us that installed 9.3 and didn't have any problems aren't posting complaints :-) Upgrades (vs clean installs) have ALWAYS been a problem. Even MS couldn't get upgrades to work 100%. Too much debris from the previous install would interfere with the newer software. Look back in the archives at the loads of problems people have going the upgrade route. If look at the history... there are way way way less problems and complaints with upgrades than there used to be... It's not perfect, but it's way better than it used to be. That said I still always do a clean install - just the same as I do if I'm installing a new version of any OS. I did a clean install of 9.3 and have had no problems at all. Everything just worked. My scanner works, my camera works, my funky Linux keyboard works... all the apps I installed work fine (at least the ones I've tried in the last couple days)... I was also somewhat disappointed with 9.2, but 9.3 is nice. Performance (on my system at least) is greatly improved, apps start up quicker etc. There have only been a relatively few postings of problems, and most are in special cases where there is some funky configuration... for the thousands of installs that have happened in the last few days, that's not too bad :-)
On 4/21/05, Clayton
Don't forget that you are seeing only a few posts of people having problems... those of us that installed 9.3 and didn't have any problems aren't posting complaints :-)
Upgrades (vs clean installs) have ALWAYS been a problem. Even MS couldn't get upgrades to work 100%. Too much debris from the previous install would interfere with the newer software. Look back in the archives at the loads of problems people have going the upgrade route. If look at the history... there are way way way less problems and complaints with upgrades than there used to be... It's not perfect, but it's way better than it used to be.
That said I still always do a clean install - just the same as I do if I'm installing a new version of any OS. I did a clean install of 9.3 and have had no problems at all. Everything just worked. My scanner works, my camera works, my funky Linux keyboard works... all the apps I installed work fine (at least the ones I've tried in the last couple days)...
I was also somewhat disappointed with 9.2, but 9.3 is nice. Performance (on my system at least) is greatly improved, apps start up quicker etc.
There have only been a relatively few postings of problems, and most are in special cases where there is some funky configuration... for the thousands of installs that have happened in the last few days, that's not too bad :-)
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Yes, you are absolutely correct. I'm just panicking as usual :-) I'm overly stressed right at this moment because of a major report I've been writing...that didn't go quite according to plan. I shall probably get my boxed set of SuSE 9.3 in a few weeks time :-) and I shall no doubt do the same as yourself and do a clean install. I did have problems myself when I tried to upgrade over 9.1 with 9.2 So, I then tried a clean one and it went on fine. Still with some strange niggles every now and again that just shouldn't be there. Hopefully they will be ok in 9.3 -- Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Michael Nelson wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 08:17:11PM -0500, Peter B Van Campen wrote:
Hi,
Just did a 9.2 to 9.3 Upgrade and there was a snag that is a show stopper.
I have one 160GB ATA HD divided thus:
/dev/hda1 SWAP /dev/hda2 / /dev/hda3 home
but at the end of the upgrade the new 9.3 cannot find the 9.2 home and made a new one under /.
Same on my 9.2 to 9.3 upgrade. I have found now that I can't add any users using yast, it thinks /home is not writeable. However, the underlying mount point has 0777 permissions, and the /home filesystem when mounted is 0755 permissions.
As root, if I cd into /home (with it mounted), and try "touch foo", it will either hang or segfault.
Very wierd.
I booted into rescue and reiserfsck'd all of the filesystems, and they're all OK.
This has gotta be some kind of bug, but in what I don't know.
Michael
My /home which is a subdirectory under / on the root filesystem was left intact and is useable after 9.2 --> 9.3 upgrade on x86_64 laptop. # l -d /home/boycie drwxr-xr-x 59 boycie users 3568 2005-04-21 01:41 /home/boycie/ In /etc/fstab, you definitely have "/dev/hda3 home" instead of the correct setting "/dev/hda3 /home". Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
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